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Framework supporting far-right racists? (community.frame.work)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I wonder a bit about how this leaves framework as a company, too. They were always the brand people went to because of their stance on the politics of repairability and environmentalism. If they don't have the politics on their side anymore, their laptops aren't a great value proposition compared to other laptops. Sure, you can upgrade a framework, but if it costs twice as much as a similar laptop you'd have to upgrade the internals twice before you've saved any money.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I think it's more about repair ability than it is about upgrading. At some point you're going to end up with hardware that needs a different motherboard and then you might as well just replace the whole thing. There really isn't anything that can be done about that.

    To be honest I kind of think framework go a bit far on the modularity of the device, it's a nice to have but really I'd be perfectly fine with a laptop that just has a replaceable keyboard, screen and battery, as those pretty much exclusively tend to be the parts that go wrong. Hell you could strip it down even further and just have an easily replaceable battery and it would probably be fine for 90% of people.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hell no, I love that I can just upgrade to a better Mainboard in a couple years

    Why would I also ditch all the other components because of a CPU change?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean I assume it's because you wouldn't in fact be able to get constant upgrade you'd end up being limited by socket design and things.

    There has already been at least one incompatible motherboard upgrade. Essentially a whole new line of framework laptops.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Yup, I'm not s huge fan of the FW12 because of the 3rd format they now have to maintain

    But the Mainboard of 12, 13 and 16 are all interchangeable inside their model line

    You're not really limited by socket design, as you change out the whole motherboard

    The only limit is the physical size inside the case. And maybe thermals

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean, there's no real reason laptops shouldn't like any desktop computer with parts that can be swapped out. Maybe when laptops were first coming on the market with a difficult form factor to work with, but it's been long enough that modularity should be easy and the default.

    If you can swap out tiny little SIM cards in a phone, you should be able to slot in standardized, smaller form-factor components like RAM, SSDs, etc.

    And by the way, people can and do swap out motherboards all the time for desktops. There is no good reason to need to buy all new components all the time.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yeah but you can't put a non ATX motherboard in an ATX case it physically doesn't fit.

    Unlike desktops where you can get oversized cases laptops are all designed towards the board the really isn't that much space in a framework laptop. Like I don't you could go up a couple of inches and get a bigger screen for example because the whole frame wouldn't fit it.

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