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Privacy friendly keypad/electronic door lock at home? (lemmy.zip)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/homeassistant@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/28482551

I'm looking into installing a door lock w/ key pad at home for two use cases:

  1. I'm out of town and need to allow someone to enter my home, in an emergency or for any reason.
  2. Nice to have - "oh shit, did I lock the door" - ability to lock the door remotely from my phone, would also solve use case #1 by unlocking remotely.

If there are no privacy respecting / self hosted apps for remote control (use case #2), then a "dumb" electronic lock w/ key pad that enables me to set a PIN that I can give to a friend or neighbor in a pinch and then reset the PIN after I get home, that would be good enough. If no such keypad/electronic locks exist, then my backup plan is to just make a few copies of my key for trusted friends & family and/or hide a key, but I'd like to explore the keypad route.

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[–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My Yale locks don't directly touch the Internet, they're Z-wave only, so there isn't even an option to setup an account. It's just the lock, my Zooz ZST39 controller that is bound to Z-waveJS UI in an LXC, that is then tied into home assistant.

Z-wave 800 is a mesh network. Z-wave LR is not a mesh network.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Ah, you're right about 800 mesh and LR.

    I've seen multiple reports online about the lock requiring an account though and Yale's documentation stating that it only supports 500 series. Below are just a few examples of reports indicating that a Yale account is required for setup. Is yours the same model?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Your first link is talking about "FAQ: Yale Assure Lock 2 with Wi-Fi", I'm talking about Z-wave locks, not Wi-Fi.

    On your second link, look for the comments from thelordzer0 "I have like 7 ZW3 modules and none of them required any accounts."

    I told you that I don't have an account setup. I never have needed it with my locks/modules. My modules are ZW2s. I'm not interested in debating other locks/modules with you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Maybe I'm not picking up on the different models correctly, but the first link I sent was about Z-Wave.

    Can I use the Assure Lock 2 with my Z-Wave Hub?

    The Assure Lock 2 supports the following Z-Wave modules:

    • Z-Wave 500 Series (version 1.8.1)
      • Module Part Number: AYR-MOD-ZW2-USA
    • Z-Wave 700 Series (available at a later date)

    I know some people, like yourself and the commenter thelordzer0, have had success using the lock without a Yale account or app. I'm not sure why you've been able to but others are reporting differently. I was just commenting to help OP out in case they're one of the other people who were forced to create an account and/or use the Yale app to initialize their lock.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Your first link:

    "supports 500 series](https://support.shopyalehome.com/yale-assure-lock-2-with-wi-fi-faq-B1q1o8M5q)"

    It has wi-fi in the URL.

    The title at the top of that page is:

    "FAQ: Yale Assure Lock 2 with Wi-Fi"

    And we know that it comes with a WiFi module because of this question from your same link:

    "Do I need a Yale Connect Wi-Fi Bridge?

    Because it has a Wi-Fi Smart Module, the Assure Lock 2 does not require a Wi-Fi bridge."

    Notice how they put in the "ZW2" module part number in that last question? To get one of their locks to work with Z-wave you have to take out the WiFi module and put in a Z-wave module.

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