▲ 37 ▼ Liberals are catalysts to catastrophe, again (www.aljazeera.com) submitted 1 year ago by limer@lemmy.ml to c/usa@lemmy.ml 105 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (36 children) Oh, I did :D maybe you did not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 year ago (35 children) I did twice, let’s discuss it. Can you pick a paragraph that particularly upsets you and explain why it’s wrong ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 35 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (34 children) I read it again just for the sake of discussion. Again, I am not upset. :D There is just not a lot to talk about. Only takeaway I got from this is that liberals suck according to the author. Cool, I guess they do. Or at least the very wide and constantly changing group being referred as "liberals" sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 34 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 year ago (14 children) Lack of specifics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (13 children) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children) In fact, liberals do not even substantially disagree with the core of Trump’s policies. After all, both right-wing and liberal elites are loyal servants of empire, the latter just give it a veneer of humanitarianism. This is low hanging fruit, you did not even try. I can imagine many arguments you could make how liberals fundamentally disagree with some policies. But you would be hard pressed to refute the follow up paragraph Both support policies that sustain the oppression of poor and marginalised people: the corporatisation of healthcare and education, labour exploitation, mass incarceration, militarised policing, censorship, corruption through corporate donations, and extractivism and militarism abroad. The liberals have put their spin on all these with talk about human rights, rule of law, and diversity. And I think you literally have no valid counterpoints, for this op ed piece, as a whole. Or else you would have shattered me with your logic. I accept your concession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (11 children) Who is this liberal group who does not disagree with trump? This grouping of people and ideologies is insane. Are people who agree with trump now also liberals? Is satan liberal? The article makes no real points, so dunno what there is to counterpoint? This magical group of "liberals" is evil and bad and fails at everything. The group changes paragraph to paragraph. Maybe they mean to say democrats? Or democrat votera? Or americans? Or the west? Or jews? Or they have defined "liberal" to mean some evil western leadership who has meaningful power but chooses not to use it because they actually agree with the way shit is going down. Maybe those liberals are evil. But it's a non-opinion. Evil people are evil! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 8 points 1 year ago I think one needs to define liberal here; as noted elsewhere what is one persons liberal is not seen as liberal by others. Especially when reading an essay in a non American paper. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Yes, conservatives are a subset of liberals. What we think of as "liberals" in the US is really a narrow category of the DNC's policy positions, but both the GOP and DNC are liberal parties supporting capitalism and demonizing socialism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Liberal in the non-US world is center-right at best. Full right at worst. The Dems outside the US are seen as center-right in some points and right in others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I guess it comes down to semantics. I don't view the word liberal to mean right-leaning, but I guess it depends on your world view and where you come from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberalism is by definition right-wing, it's the ideological justification for capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I did. Multiple times. Maybe you did not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're really going with "I know you are, but what am I!"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago Is satan liberal? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you didn't read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago No u permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (16 children) Quit lying and go read the article dipshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (15 children) Why don't you read it before name calling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (14 children) Quit lying and go read the article dipshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (13 children) What's with the name calling? Rude. Maybe you got some insights on the article since you think I did not read it when in fact I've read it multiple fucking times and the contents just won't change :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (12 children) My insight into the article is it's 100% accurate, you've had it explained to you in detail by several other users already here and you know it and you're playing dumb because you don't have an argument to make, the name calling is entirely warranted, cry about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (11 children) What insight? All you do is insult me and claim I have not read the article. Only thing I've gathered from the conversations here is that people have very different meanings for the word "liberal". I truly think it's you who is playing dumb and has no arguments to make. That's why you resort to insulting me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) Lol goddamn you're dumb permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 year ago (35 children) I did twice, let’s discuss it. Can you pick a paragraph that particularly upsets you and explain why it’s wrong ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 35 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (34 children) I read it again just for the sake of discussion. Again, I am not upset. :D There is just not a lot to talk about. Only takeaway I got from this is that liberals suck according to the author. Cool, I guess they do. Or at least the very wide and constantly changing group being referred as "liberals" sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 34 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 year ago (14 children) Lack of specifics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (13 children) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children) In fact, liberals do not even substantially disagree with the core of Trump’s policies. After all, both right-wing and liberal elites are loyal servants of empire, the latter just give it a veneer of humanitarianism. This is low hanging fruit, you did not even try. I can imagine many arguments you could make how liberals fundamentally disagree with some policies. But you would be hard pressed to refute the follow up paragraph Both support policies that sustain the oppression of poor and marginalised people: the corporatisation of healthcare and education, labour exploitation, mass incarceration, militarised policing, censorship, corruption through corporate donations, and extractivism and militarism abroad. The liberals have put their spin on all these with talk about human rights, rule of law, and diversity. And I think you literally have no valid counterpoints, for this op ed piece, as a whole. Or else you would have shattered me with your logic. I accept your concession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (11 children) Who is this liberal group who does not disagree with trump? This grouping of people and ideologies is insane. Are people who agree with trump now also liberals? Is satan liberal? The article makes no real points, so dunno what there is to counterpoint? This magical group of "liberals" is evil and bad and fails at everything. The group changes paragraph to paragraph. Maybe they mean to say democrats? Or democrat votera? Or americans? Or the west? Or jews? Or they have defined "liberal" to mean some evil western leadership who has meaningful power but chooses not to use it because they actually agree with the way shit is going down. Maybe those liberals are evil. But it's a non-opinion. Evil people are evil! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 8 points 1 year ago I think one needs to define liberal here; as noted elsewhere what is one persons liberal is not seen as liberal by others. Especially when reading an essay in a non American paper. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Yes, conservatives are a subset of liberals. What we think of as "liberals" in the US is really a narrow category of the DNC's policy positions, but both the GOP and DNC are liberal parties supporting capitalism and demonizing socialism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Liberal in the non-US world is center-right at best. Full right at worst. The Dems outside the US are seen as center-right in some points and right in others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I guess it comes down to semantics. I don't view the word liberal to mean right-leaning, but I guess it depends on your world view and where you come from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberalism is by definition right-wing, it's the ideological justification for capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I did. Multiple times. Maybe you did not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're really going with "I know you are, but what am I!"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago Is satan liberal? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you didn't read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago No u permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (16 children) Quit lying and go read the article dipshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (15 children) Why don't you read it before name calling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (14 children) Quit lying and go read the article dipshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (13 children) What's with the name calling? Rude. Maybe you got some insights on the article since you think I did not read it when in fact I've read it multiple fucking times and the contents just won't change :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (12 children) My insight into the article is it's 100% accurate, you've had it explained to you in detail by several other users already here and you know it and you're playing dumb because you don't have an argument to make, the name calling is entirely warranted, cry about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (11 children) What insight? All you do is insult me and claim I have not read the article. Only thing I've gathered from the conversations here is that people have very different meanings for the word "liberal". I truly think it's you who is playing dumb and has no arguments to make. That's why you resort to insulting me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) Lol goddamn you're dumb permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (34 children) I read it again just for the sake of discussion. Again, I am not upset. :D There is just not a lot to talk about. Only takeaway I got from this is that liberals suck according to the author. Cool, I guess they do. Or at least the very wide and constantly changing group being referred as "liberals" sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 34 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 year ago (14 children) Lack of specifics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (13 children) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children) In fact, liberals do not even substantially disagree with the core of Trump’s policies. After all, both right-wing and liberal elites are loyal servants of empire, the latter just give it a veneer of humanitarianism. This is low hanging fruit, you did not even try. I can imagine many arguments you could make how liberals fundamentally disagree with some policies. But you would be hard pressed to refute the follow up paragraph Both support policies that sustain the oppression of poor and marginalised people: the corporatisation of healthcare and education, labour exploitation, mass incarceration, militarised policing, censorship, corruption through corporate donations, and extractivism and militarism abroad. The liberals have put their spin on all these with talk about human rights, rule of law, and diversity. And I think you literally have no valid counterpoints, for this op ed piece, as a whole. Or else you would have shattered me with your logic. I accept your concession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (11 children) Who is this liberal group who does not disagree with trump? This grouping of people and ideologies is insane. Are people who agree with trump now also liberals? Is satan liberal? The article makes no real points, so dunno what there is to counterpoint? This magical group of "liberals" is evil and bad and fails at everything. The group changes paragraph to paragraph. Maybe they mean to say democrats? Or democrat votera? Or americans? Or the west? Or jews? Or they have defined "liberal" to mean some evil western leadership who has meaningful power but chooses not to use it because they actually agree with the way shit is going down. Maybe those liberals are evil. But it's a non-opinion. Evil people are evil! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 8 points 1 year ago I think one needs to define liberal here; as noted elsewhere what is one persons liberal is not seen as liberal by others. Especially when reading an essay in a non American paper. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Yes, conservatives are a subset of liberals. What we think of as "liberals" in the US is really a narrow category of the DNC's policy positions, but both the GOP and DNC are liberal parties supporting capitalism and demonizing socialism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Liberal in the non-US world is center-right at best. Full right at worst. The Dems outside the US are seen as center-right in some points and right in others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I guess it comes down to semantics. I don't view the word liberal to mean right-leaning, but I guess it depends on your world view and where you come from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberalism is by definition right-wing, it's the ideological justification for capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I did. Multiple times. Maybe you did not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're really going with "I know you are, but what am I!"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago Is satan liberal? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you didn't read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago No u permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (16 children) Quit lying and go read the article dipshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (15 children) Why don't you read it before name calling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (14 children) Quit lying and go read the article dipshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (13 children) What's with the name calling? Rude. Maybe you got some insights on the article since you think I did not read it when in fact I've read it multiple fucking times and the contents just won't change :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (12 children) My insight into the article is it's 100% accurate, you've had it explained to you in detail by several other users already here and you know it and you're playing dumb because you don't have an argument to make, the name calling is entirely warranted, cry about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (11 children) What insight? All you do is insult me and claim I have not read the article. Only thing I've gathered from the conversations here is that people have very different meanings for the word "liberal". I truly think it's you who is playing dumb and has no arguments to make. That's why you resort to insulting me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) Lol goddamn you're dumb permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 year ago (14 children) Lack of specifics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (13 children) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children) In fact, liberals do not even substantially disagree with the core of Trump’s policies. After all, both right-wing and liberal elites are loyal servants of empire, the latter just give it a veneer of humanitarianism. This is low hanging fruit, you did not even try. I can imagine many arguments you could make how liberals fundamentally disagree with some policies. But you would be hard pressed to refute the follow up paragraph Both support policies that sustain the oppression of poor and marginalised people: the corporatisation of healthcare and education, labour exploitation, mass incarceration, militarised policing, censorship, corruption through corporate donations, and extractivism and militarism abroad. The liberals have put their spin on all these with talk about human rights, rule of law, and diversity. And I think you literally have no valid counterpoints, for this op ed piece, as a whole. Or else you would have shattered me with your logic. I accept your concession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (11 children) Who is this liberal group who does not disagree with trump? This grouping of people and ideologies is insane. Are people who agree with trump now also liberals? Is satan liberal? The article makes no real points, so dunno what there is to counterpoint? This magical group of "liberals" is evil and bad and fails at everything. The group changes paragraph to paragraph. Maybe they mean to say democrats? Or democrat votera? Or americans? Or the west? Or jews? Or they have defined "liberal" to mean some evil western leadership who has meaningful power but chooses not to use it because they actually agree with the way shit is going down. Maybe those liberals are evil. But it's a non-opinion. Evil people are evil! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 8 points 1 year ago I think one needs to define liberal here; as noted elsewhere what is one persons liberal is not seen as liberal by others. Especially when reading an essay in a non American paper. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Yes, conservatives are a subset of liberals. What we think of as "liberals" in the US is really a narrow category of the DNC's policy positions, but both the GOP and DNC are liberal parties supporting capitalism and demonizing socialism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Liberal in the non-US world is center-right at best. Full right at worst. The Dems outside the US are seen as center-right in some points and right in others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I guess it comes down to semantics. I don't view the word liberal to mean right-leaning, but I guess it depends on your world view and where you come from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberalism is by definition right-wing, it's the ideological justification for capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I did. Multiple times. Maybe you did not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're really going with "I know you are, but what am I!"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago Is satan liberal? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (13 children) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children) In fact, liberals do not even substantially disagree with the core of Trump’s policies. After all, both right-wing and liberal elites are loyal servants of empire, the latter just give it a veneer of humanitarianism. This is low hanging fruit, you did not even try. I can imagine many arguments you could make how liberals fundamentally disagree with some policies. But you would be hard pressed to refute the follow up paragraph Both support policies that sustain the oppression of poor and marginalised people: the corporatisation of healthcare and education, labour exploitation, mass incarceration, militarised policing, censorship, corruption through corporate donations, and extractivism and militarism abroad. The liberals have put their spin on all these with talk about human rights, rule of law, and diversity. And I think you literally have no valid counterpoints, for this op ed piece, as a whole. Or else you would have shattered me with your logic. I accept your concession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (11 children) Who is this liberal group who does not disagree with trump? This grouping of people and ideologies is insane. Are people who agree with trump now also liberals? Is satan liberal? The article makes no real points, so dunno what there is to counterpoint? This magical group of "liberals" is evil and bad and fails at everything. The group changes paragraph to paragraph. Maybe they mean to say democrats? Or democrat votera? Or americans? Or the west? Or jews? Or they have defined "liberal" to mean some evil western leadership who has meaningful power but chooses not to use it because they actually agree with the way shit is going down. Maybe those liberals are evil. But it's a non-opinion. Evil people are evil! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 8 points 1 year ago I think one needs to define liberal here; as noted elsewhere what is one persons liberal is not seen as liberal by others. Especially when reading an essay in a non American paper. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Yes, conservatives are a subset of liberals. What we think of as "liberals" in the US is really a narrow category of the DNC's policy positions, but both the GOP and DNC are liberal parties supporting capitalism and demonizing socialism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Liberal in the non-US world is center-right at best. Full right at worst. The Dems outside the US are seen as center-right in some points and right in others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I guess it comes down to semantics. I don't view the word liberal to mean right-leaning, but I guess it depends on your world view and where you come from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberalism is by definition right-wing, it's the ideological justification for capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I did. Multiple times. Maybe you did not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're really going with "I know you are, but what am I!"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago Is satan liberal? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children) In fact, liberals do not even substantially disagree with the core of Trump’s policies. After all, both right-wing and liberal elites are loyal servants of empire, the latter just give it a veneer of humanitarianism. This is low hanging fruit, you did not even try. I can imagine many arguments you could make how liberals fundamentally disagree with some policies. But you would be hard pressed to refute the follow up paragraph Both support policies that sustain the oppression of poor and marginalised people: the corporatisation of healthcare and education, labour exploitation, mass incarceration, militarised policing, censorship, corruption through corporate donations, and extractivism and militarism abroad. The liberals have put their spin on all these with talk about human rights, rule of law, and diversity. And I think you literally have no valid counterpoints, for this op ed piece, as a whole. Or else you would have shattered me with your logic. I accept your concession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (11 children) Who is this liberal group who does not disagree with trump? This grouping of people and ideologies is insane. Are people who agree with trump now also liberals? Is satan liberal? The article makes no real points, so dunno what there is to counterpoint? This magical group of "liberals" is evil and bad and fails at everything. The group changes paragraph to paragraph. Maybe they mean to say democrats? Or democrat votera? Or americans? Or the west? Or jews? Or they have defined "liberal" to mean some evil western leadership who has meaningful power but chooses not to use it because they actually agree with the way shit is going down. Maybe those liberals are evil. But it's a non-opinion. Evil people are evil! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 8 points 1 year ago I think one needs to define liberal here; as noted elsewhere what is one persons liberal is not seen as liberal by others. Especially when reading an essay in a non American paper. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Yes, conservatives are a subset of liberals. What we think of as "liberals" in the US is really a narrow category of the DNC's policy positions, but both the GOP and DNC are liberal parties supporting capitalism and demonizing socialism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Liberal in the non-US world is center-right at best. Full right at worst. The Dems outside the US are seen as center-right in some points and right in others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I guess it comes down to semantics. I don't view the word liberal to mean right-leaning, but I guess it depends on your world view and where you come from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberalism is by definition right-wing, it's the ideological justification for capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I did. Multiple times. Maybe you did not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're really going with "I know you are, but what am I!"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago Is satan liberal? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (11 children) Who is this liberal group who does not disagree with trump? This grouping of people and ideologies is insane. Are people who agree with trump now also liberals? Is satan liberal? The article makes no real points, so dunno what there is to counterpoint? This magical group of "liberals" is evil and bad and fails at everything. The group changes paragraph to paragraph. Maybe they mean to say democrats? Or democrat votera? Or americans? Or the west? Or jews? Or they have defined "liberal" to mean some evil western leadership who has meaningful power but chooses not to use it because they actually agree with the way shit is going down. Maybe those liberals are evil. But it's a non-opinion. Evil people are evil! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 8 points 1 year ago I think one needs to define liberal here; as noted elsewhere what is one persons liberal is not seen as liberal by others. Especially when reading an essay in a non American paper. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Yes, conservatives are a subset of liberals. What we think of as "liberals" in the US is really a narrow category of the DNC's policy positions, but both the GOP and DNC are liberal parties supporting capitalism and demonizing socialism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Liberal in the non-US world is center-right at best. Full right at worst. The Dems outside the US are seen as center-right in some points and right in others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I guess it comes down to semantics. I don't view the word liberal to mean right-leaning, but I guess it depends on your world view and where you come from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberalism is by definition right-wing, it's the ideological justification for capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I did. Multiple times. Maybe you did not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're really going with "I know you are, but what am I!"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago ? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago Is satan liberal? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limer@lemmy.ml [S] 8 points 1 year ago I think one needs to define liberal here; as noted elsewhere what is one persons liberal is not seen as liberal by others. Especially when reading an essay in a non American paper. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Yes, conservatives are a subset of liberals. What we think of as "liberals" in the US is really a narrow category of the DNC's policy positions, but both the GOP and DNC are liberal parties supporting capitalism and demonizing socialism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Liberal in the non-US world is center-right at best. Full right at worst. The Dems outside the US are seen as center-right in some points and right in others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I guess it comes down to semantics. I don't view the word liberal to mean right-leaning, but I guess it depends on your world view and where you come from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberalism is by definition right-wing, it's the ideological justification for capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I guess it comes down to semantics. I don't view the word liberal to mean right-leaning, but I guess it depends on your world view and where you come from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberalism is by definition right-wing, it's the ideological justification for capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberalism is by definition right-wing, it's the ideological justification for capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago Liberal -> Economics liberal. Not social liberal. Freedom of movement for the money but not for the people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I did. Multiple times. Maybe you did not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're really going with "I know you are, but what am I!"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago ? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) I did. Multiple times. Maybe you did not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're really going with "I know you are, but what am I!"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago ? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're really going with "I know you are, but what am I!"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago ? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you didn't read the article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago No u permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (16 children) Quit lying and go read the article dipshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (15 children) Why don't you read it before name calling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (14 children) Quit lying and go read the article dipshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (13 children) What's with the name calling? Rude. Maybe you got some insights on the article since you think I did not read it when in fact I've read it multiple fucking times and the contents just won't change :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (12 children) My insight into the article is it's 100% accurate, you've had it explained to you in detail by several other users already here and you know it and you're playing dumb because you don't have an argument to make, the name calling is entirely warranted, cry about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (11 children) What insight? All you do is insult me and claim I have not read the article. Only thing I've gathered from the conversations here is that people have very different meanings for the word "liberal". I truly think it's you who is playing dumb and has no arguments to make. That's why you resort to insulting me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) Lol goddamn you're dumb permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (15 children) Why don't you read it before name calling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (14 children) Quit lying and go read the article dipshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (13 children) What's with the name calling? Rude. Maybe you got some insights on the article since you think I did not read it when in fact I've read it multiple fucking times and the contents just won't change :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (12 children) My insight into the article is it's 100% accurate, you've had it explained to you in detail by several other users already here and you know it and you're playing dumb because you don't have an argument to make, the name calling is entirely warranted, cry about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (11 children) What insight? All you do is insult me and claim I have not read the article. Only thing I've gathered from the conversations here is that people have very different meanings for the word "liberal". I truly think it's you who is playing dumb and has no arguments to make. That's why you resort to insulting me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) Lol goddamn you're dumb permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (14 children) Quit lying and go read the article dipshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (13 children) What's with the name calling? Rude. Maybe you got some insights on the article since you think I did not read it when in fact I've read it multiple fucking times and the contents just won't change :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (12 children) My insight into the article is it's 100% accurate, you've had it explained to you in detail by several other users already here and you know it and you're playing dumb because you don't have an argument to make, the name calling is entirely warranted, cry about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (11 children) What insight? All you do is insult me and claim I have not read the article. Only thing I've gathered from the conversations here is that people have very different meanings for the word "liberal". I truly think it's you who is playing dumb and has no arguments to make. That's why you resort to insulting me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) Lol goddamn you're dumb permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (13 children) What's with the name calling? Rude. Maybe you got some insights on the article since you think I did not read it when in fact I've read it multiple fucking times and the contents just won't change :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (12 children) My insight into the article is it's 100% accurate, you've had it explained to you in detail by several other users already here and you know it and you're playing dumb because you don't have an argument to make, the name calling is entirely warranted, cry about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (11 children) What insight? All you do is insult me and claim I have not read the article. Only thing I've gathered from the conversations here is that people have very different meanings for the word "liberal". I truly think it's you who is playing dumb and has no arguments to make. That's why you resort to insulting me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) Lol goddamn you're dumb permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (12 children) My insight into the article is it's 100% accurate, you've had it explained to you in detail by several other users already here and you know it and you're playing dumb because you don't have an argument to make, the name calling is entirely warranted, cry about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (11 children) What insight? All you do is insult me and claim I have not read the article. Only thing I've gathered from the conversations here is that people have very different meanings for the word "liberal". I truly think it's you who is playing dumb and has no arguments to make. That's why you resort to insulting me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) Lol goddamn you're dumb permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (11 children) What insight? All you do is insult me and claim I have not read the article. Only thing I've gathered from the conversations here is that people have very different meanings for the word "liberal". I truly think it's you who is playing dumb and has no arguments to make. That's why you resort to insulting me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) Lol goddamn you're dumb permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) Lol goddamn you're dumb permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (9 children) No u :D You just keep proving my point lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children) You don't have a point dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (7 children) My point was that all you can do is throw insults at me. And you keep doing it, proving my point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) Insults are exactly what you deserve, cry about it halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children) You sure are fun to talk with. Somehow you think I'm crying :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Lol. Corncob permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Thanks, you too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I'm right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Try harder halfwit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago I said try harder not GOTO 10 permalink fedilink source parent