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[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (14 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Edie@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* Exactly. Trump has supporters. Putin has supporters. Modi has supporters. Why wouldn't Xi? The people that dislike him might not want to sit down with him, that doesnt make it staged. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WbrJr@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (3 children) I literelly don't know which "side is right" in this argument. In a country where there is propaganda and social media is strictly moderated by the government and not a lot of independent journalism (like YouTube or blogs even get pressured to shut down) and which has a social score controlling your life and thougs - how would one make a actually independent and fair survey? There is no democracy, so why turn against it if you have no way of changing it? Of cause we are a bit brainwashed by the west and Chinas enemies and I think trump helped a lot to remove the elusion of a "good and strong america". But it still feels like the people are more free in the west, we have democracy and solid education and independent social media and journalism which is very important to me. And its very impressive what China achieved in the short amount of time, compared to the west, industrially speaking. But socially (like what the government does) I really would not want to live there at all. I feel like many people here on Lemmy have just the same black and white thinking of "china good, murica bad", which is maybe just as delusional as all the MAGA idiots. Plus there are many other western countries that are quite solid and doing well mostly, which often get overlooked in this debate Any thoughts? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WbrJr@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago Thanks for your reply! I know about the distribution of power, that has a kind of pyramid shape, sorry for the lack of vocabulary. I have also seen videos, of cause one sided, from people that lived in China for some time and displaying their view. One very popular story is the "they paint their grass green", which I understood as follows: There is the goal of having a certain amount of green land in the country, so each region trys to reach that goal and show the higher ups how good it is going by having green grass and hills. This is of cause a very simplified scenario, but I have read a few other things that aren't so great. Of cause you can say the same thing about many other western and global north countries, but very few people are so emotional and strong opinionated as supporters of China, some north korea or Russia. I feel like i have not read a comment with such a strong opinion about any other country here on Lemmy. I see that the view of most westerns is shifted from reality, but I have not read a comment that seems to see both sides of that country, it seems very extremistic. Now when I think of China, these things come to mind: the Uighurs not quite working democracy extreme surveillance stories of people getting herassed by the police for criticising the state or being different (Naomi Wu on yt for example) impressive industrial development in the last few decades high working ethics creativity in engineering skilled labour high building rates of solar and renewable energy sources also high coal production and high building rates of coal power plants high censorship, as it can be seen with deepseek and other AI or media stories about testing radioactivity on a village striving for higher environmental regulations in the industry affiliation with Russia, that invaded Ukraine (after the Nato got closer of cause, which might be seen as a provocative move) affiliation with north korea, which is a different conversation their problem with Taiwan and tsmc hard working conditions in factories (owned by western companies sometimes, but the government is supposed to protect the citizens in my view) Now this is of cause not at all everything and I am aware its a view fuelled by western media. But if half of those things are true, its still not going great. I don't want to talk China down, I want to understand why so many people in this space are pro china, when I see the government as pretty critical. I know the us is putting a ton of effort into discredit other forms of government or markets, and there are for sure a few points in this list that is heavily influenced by them. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -8 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, propaganda speech permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago What exactly makes a "propaganda speech" different from a regular one? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (7 children) Any photo like that from any significant nation is, on some level, staged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) Did you? Xis approval rate has nothing to do with that photograph permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) Fair callout. I suspect we pretty much agree then beyond debating semantics of where you draw the line between staging and framing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) What would you call the selection of friendly people to sit around the leader to create photogenic moments? "Hey Mr Albenese, here are some friendly people for you to chat with". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not saying that's what happened here. I'm asking: if someone did that, what would you consider it? Academic question, decoupled from China or any other country permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [+] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone who disagrees with this along the lines of "Oh but Trump/Obama/Xi/Trudeau/Macron/Stalin/Hitler is really loved!" then you should put get off the Internet until you grow a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago The approval rate of the politician does not enter into the fact that any photo that looks like that is marketing and involves some level of staging or artifice permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* Exactly. Trump has supporters. Putin has supporters. Modi has supporters. Why wouldn't Xi? The people that dislike him might not want to sit down with him, that doesnt make it staged. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WbrJr@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (3 children) I literelly don't know which "side is right" in this argument. In a country where there is propaganda and social media is strictly moderated by the government and not a lot of independent journalism (like YouTube or blogs even get pressured to shut down) and which has a social score controlling your life and thougs - how would one make a actually independent and fair survey? There is no democracy, so why turn against it if you have no way of changing it? Of cause we are a bit brainwashed by the west and Chinas enemies and I think trump helped a lot to remove the elusion of a "good and strong america". But it still feels like the people are more free in the west, we have democracy and solid education and independent social media and journalism which is very important to me. And its very impressive what China achieved in the short amount of time, compared to the west, industrially speaking. But socially (like what the government does) I really would not want to live there at all. I feel like many people here on Lemmy have just the same black and white thinking of "china good, murica bad", which is maybe just as delusional as all the MAGA idiots. Plus there are many other western countries that are quite solid and doing well mostly, which often get overlooked in this debate Any thoughts? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WbrJr@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago Thanks for your reply! I know about the distribution of power, that has a kind of pyramid shape, sorry for the lack of vocabulary. I have also seen videos, of cause one sided, from people that lived in China for some time and displaying their view. One very popular story is the "they paint their grass green", which I understood as follows: There is the goal of having a certain amount of green land in the country, so each region trys to reach that goal and show the higher ups how good it is going by having green grass and hills. This is of cause a very simplified scenario, but I have read a few other things that aren't so great. Of cause you can say the same thing about many other western and global north countries, but very few people are so emotional and strong opinionated as supporters of China, some north korea or Russia. I feel like i have not read a comment with such a strong opinion about any other country here on Lemmy. I see that the view of most westerns is shifted from reality, but I have not read a comment that seems to see both sides of that country, it seems very extremistic. Now when I think of China, these things come to mind: the Uighurs not quite working democracy extreme surveillance stories of people getting herassed by the police for criticising the state or being different (Naomi Wu on yt for example) impressive industrial development in the last few decades high working ethics creativity in engineering skilled labour high building rates of solar and renewable energy sources also high coal production and high building rates of coal power plants high censorship, as it can be seen with deepseek and other AI or media stories about testing radioactivity on a village striving for higher environmental regulations in the industry affiliation with Russia, that invaded Ukraine (after the Nato got closer of cause, which might be seen as a provocative move) affiliation with north korea, which is a different conversation their problem with Taiwan and tsmc hard working conditions in factories (owned by western companies sometimes, but the government is supposed to protect the citizens in my view) Now this is of cause not at all everything and I am aware its a view fuelled by western media. But if half of those things are true, its still not going great. I don't want to talk China down, I want to understand why so many people in this space are pro china, when I see the government as pretty critical. I know the us is putting a ton of effort into discredit other forms of government or markets, and there are for sure a few points in this list that is heavily influenced by them. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -8 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, propaganda speech permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago What exactly makes a "propaganda speech" different from a regular one? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WbrJr@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago Thanks for your reply! I know about the distribution of power, that has a kind of pyramid shape, sorry for the lack of vocabulary. I have also seen videos, of cause one sided, from people that lived in China for some time and displaying their view. One very popular story is the "they paint their grass green", which I understood as follows: There is the goal of having a certain amount of green land in the country, so each region trys to reach that goal and show the higher ups how good it is going by having green grass and hills. This is of cause a very simplified scenario, but I have read a few other things that aren't so great. Of cause you can say the same thing about many other western and global north countries, but very few people are so emotional and strong opinionated as supporters of China, some north korea or Russia. I feel like i have not read a comment with such a strong opinion about any other country here on Lemmy. I see that the view of most westerns is shifted from reality, but I have not read a comment that seems to see both sides of that country, it seems very extremistic. Now when I think of China, these things come to mind: the Uighurs not quite working democracy extreme surveillance stories of people getting herassed by the police for criticising the state or being different (Naomi Wu on yt for example) impressive industrial development in the last few decades high working ethics creativity in engineering skilled labour high building rates of solar and renewable energy sources also high coal production and high building rates of coal power plants high censorship, as it can be seen with deepseek and other AI or media stories about testing radioactivity on a village striving for higher environmental regulations in the industry affiliation with Russia, that invaded Ukraine (after the Nato got closer of cause, which might be seen as a provocative move) affiliation with north korea, which is a different conversation their problem with Taiwan and tsmc hard working conditions in factories (owned by western companies sometimes, but the government is supposed to protect the citizens in my view) Now this is of cause not at all everything and I am aware its a view fuelled by western media. But if half of those things are true, its still not going great. I don't want to talk China down, I want to understand why so many people in this space are pro china, when I see the government as pretty critical. I know the us is putting a ton of effort into discredit other forms of government or markets, and there are for sure a few points in this list that is heavily influenced by them. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -8 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, propaganda speech permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago What exactly makes a "propaganda speech" different from a regular one? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] WbrJr@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago Thanks for your reply! I know about the distribution of power, that has a kind of pyramid shape, sorry for the lack of vocabulary. I have also seen videos, of cause one sided, from people that lived in China for some time and displaying their view. One very popular story is the "they paint their grass green", which I understood as follows: There is the goal of having a certain amount of green land in the country, so each region trys to reach that goal and show the higher ups how good it is going by having green grass and hills. This is of cause a very simplified scenario, but I have read a few other things that aren't so great. Of cause you can say the same thing about many other western and global north countries, but very few people are so emotional and strong opinionated as supporters of China, some north korea or Russia. I feel like i have not read a comment with such a strong opinion about any other country here on Lemmy. I see that the view of most westerns is shifted from reality, but I have not read a comment that seems to see both sides of that country, it seems very extremistic. Now when I think of China, these things come to mind: the Uighurs not quite working democracy extreme surveillance stories of people getting herassed by the police for criticising the state or being different (Naomi Wu on yt for example) impressive industrial development in the last few decades high working ethics creativity in engineering skilled labour high building rates of solar and renewable energy sources also high coal production and high building rates of coal power plants high censorship, as it can be seen with deepseek and other AI or media stories about testing radioactivity on a village striving for higher environmental regulations in the industry affiliation with Russia, that invaded Ukraine (after the Nato got closer of cause, which might be seen as a provocative move) affiliation with north korea, which is a different conversation their problem with Taiwan and tsmc hard working conditions in factories (owned by western companies sometimes, but the government is supposed to protect the citizens in my view) Now this is of cause not at all everything and I am aware its a view fuelled by western media. But if half of those things are true, its still not going great. I don't want to talk China down, I want to understand why so many people in this space are pro china, when I see the government as pretty critical. I know the us is putting a ton of effort into discredit other forms of government or markets, and there are for sure a few points in this list that is heavily influenced by them. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -8 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, propaganda speech permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago What exactly makes a "propaganda speech" different from a regular one? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, propaganda speech permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago What exactly makes a "propaganda speech" different from a regular one? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rbesfe@lemmy.ca -10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, propaganda speech permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago What exactly makes a "propaganda speech" different from a regular one? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago What exactly makes a "propaganda speech" different from a regular one? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (7 children) Any photo like that from any significant nation is, on some level, staged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) Did you? Xis approval rate has nothing to do with that photograph permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) Fair callout. I suspect we pretty much agree then beyond debating semantics of where you draw the line between staging and framing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) What would you call the selection of friendly people to sit around the leader to create photogenic moments? "Hey Mr Albenese, here are some friendly people for you to chat with". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not saying that's what happened here. I'm asking: if someone did that, what would you consider it? Academic question, decoupled from China or any other country permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [+] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone who disagrees with this along the lines of "Oh but Trump/Obama/Xi/Trudeau/Macron/Stalin/Hitler is really loved!" then you should put get off the Internet until you grow a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago The approval rate of the politician does not enter into the fact that any photo that looks like that is marketing and involves some level of staging or artifice permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) Did you? Xis approval rate has nothing to do with that photograph permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) Fair callout. I suspect we pretty much agree then beyond debating semantics of where you draw the line between staging and framing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) What would you call the selection of friendly people to sit around the leader to create photogenic moments? "Hey Mr Albenese, here are some friendly people for you to chat with". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not saying that's what happened here. I'm asking: if someone did that, what would you consider it? Academic question, decoupled from China or any other country permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) Did you? Xis approval rate has nothing to do with that photograph permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) Fair callout. I suspect we pretty much agree then beyond debating semantics of where you draw the line between staging and framing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) What would you call the selection of friendly people to sit around the leader to create photogenic moments? "Hey Mr Albenese, here are some friendly people for you to chat with". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not saying that's what happened here. I'm asking: if someone did that, what would you consider it? Academic question, decoupled from China or any other country permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) Fair callout. I suspect we pretty much agree then beyond debating semantics of where you draw the line between staging and framing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) What would you call the selection of friendly people to sit around the leader to create photogenic moments? "Hey Mr Albenese, here are some friendly people for you to chat with". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not saying that's what happened here. I'm asking: if someone did that, what would you consider it? Academic question, decoupled from China or any other country permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) Fair callout. I suspect we pretty much agree then beyond debating semantics of where you draw the line between staging and framing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) What would you call the selection of friendly people to sit around the leader to create photogenic moments? "Hey Mr Albenese, here are some friendly people for you to chat with". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not saying that's what happened here. I'm asking: if someone did that, what would you consider it? Academic question, decoupled from China or any other country permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) What would you call the selection of friendly people to sit around the leader to create photogenic moments? "Hey Mr Albenese, here are some friendly people for you to chat with". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not saying that's what happened here. I'm asking: if someone did that, what would you consider it? Academic question, decoupled from China or any other country permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) What would you call the selection of friendly people to sit around the leader to create photogenic moments? "Hey Mr Albenese, here are some friendly people for you to chat with". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not saying that's what happened here. I'm asking: if someone did that, what would you consider it? Academic question, decoupled from China or any other country permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not saying that's what happened here. I'm asking: if someone did that, what would you consider it? Academic question, decoupled from China or any other country permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not saying that's what happened here. I'm asking: if someone did that, what would you consider it? Academic question, decoupled from China or any other country permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Fair permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone who disagrees with this along the lines of "Oh but Trump/Obama/Xi/Trudeau/Macron/Stalin/Hitler is really loved!" then you should put get off the Internet until you grow a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago The approval rate of the politician does not enter into the fact that any photo that looks like that is marketing and involves some level of staging or artifice permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago The approval rate of the politician does not enter into the fact that any photo that looks like that is marketing and involves some level of staging or artifice permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago The approval rate of the politician does not enter into the fact that any photo that looks like that is marketing and involves some level of staging or artifice permalink fedilink source parent