I can't take away the eraser or give it to him only when he asks, because I have more students.

He's impulsive but nice. His parents know he does stuff like that.

Any ideas?

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[+] -10 points 1 year ago (12 children)

If the parents don't support you, and you can eliminate the existence of mental issues that require treatment or special attention for chewie, and you can't use a spray solution, I would go for gentle peer pressure. Point it out in class, do a friendly dressing down how none of the other students want to use the chewed on eraser. If he won't stop if you say so, maybe you can get other kids to do the trick. The unwanted public attention from his peers might be enough. Would your principal be up for a bad cop routine where you can be the good cop?

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  • [+] 13 points 1 year ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    I want to highlight again that this suggestion was preceded by a lengthy checklist.

    I think you and I have a different idea of what bullying is. I remember kids picking their nose in class and eating it in elementary school. I don't think it took an intervention from the teacher to get that to stop. Just some kids going "ewww, that's disgusting" got the message across. This is how society corrects behavior. I wasn't suggesting a teacher goes before class, does a Nelson Ha-Ha, "look at that loser, go beat him later and take his lunch money." Just something like "Kevin, the other kids need to use this eraser as well and they don't like it full of spit. Please don't chew on it. Thanks." It signals to the kids this is not okay and I don't think they will go full Lord of the Flies on him - keeping in mind the preconditions I had outlined above.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's an enumeration of if-phrases. "If the parents don't support the teacher" is just the first condition of many. And some things you may have to infer, like if the teacher had to talk to the parents and got cold shouldered, I think you can presume the teacher has already talked to the student too. I'm not gonna go as far as saying my post was immaculately written and presented. I would go as far as saying the options presented were at the bottom of the list. No support from the parents, maybe not even school leadership, cannot use bitter taste spray for insurance reasons, etc.

    If a teacher telling a kid to get their feet off the table, to stop shooting spit wads at the row in front of them, to stop rocking back their chair because they might tip over and fall - if all these situations are okay for a teacher to say out loud in front of the class: "Kevin, stop it!" - and I think they are - then telling the kid not to chew on communally shared erasers is no different. Claiming this will immediately lead to bullying or just the threat that it might do is to an extent quixotic to me. If teachers will not assert their authority ever for fear of what the chaos kids will do, they might as well pack it in then.

    Your office comparisons are insignificant here. Elementary school is a different sport entirely. There is a difference between coworkers sharing an office hierarchy and the power, responsibility, and maturity differential students/teacher, never mind the fact that offices shouldn't employ 9yos.

    OP has weighed in against the suggestion anyway. I'll defer to them because they know more about this case than you or I.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
  • My word choices have given you the impression of a scheming Machiavellian teacher who reenacts the Spanish Inquisition on the boy until his classmates pelt him to death with rotten eggs. That's on me, it's not what I meant. I think I've added enough clarification in this thread at this point. So I won't go into it again.

    The opinion of one teacher, one that due to the question they asked initially and the forum they asked it in, and a few down votes are, I feel, not enough to call my argument dumb. Never mind the more personal attack that followed. Tackle the ball, not the player. If you want me to change my mind, that is.

    There is a whole field of study for this, pedagogy. I am sure the first chapter of the book isn't "kids are ruthless. The end." I remain unconvinced that my approach, where my suggestion was preconditioned on many things to have happened first, is the worst one until I hear something that isn't that or teetering on the edge of name calling.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Point it out in class, do a friendly dressing down how none of the other students want to use the chewed on eraser.

    Seems like a great way to get your own private eraser!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They sell stuff called Chewelry; it's a necklace or wristband you can chomp on.

    Maybe get the kid one of those? If not, maybe make one out of a piece of string and eraser?

    This one's for chewin', this one's for undoin'.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is something the parents should do - along being in the driver's seat of correcting this behavior in their 9yo. In times of teachers crowd funding classroom supplies, I don't think it's fair to suggest "throw money at it" to a teacher. It's not going to cost $5 just once and that's it. If you have to beg for boardmarkers in general, this will be a line item that matters.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    Talked to the parents because this kid is known for doing weird/illogical stuff. They say that they know that something is not right and that they are trying to figure out what it is.

    So till we know if the student has an issue or of he's simply the Herald of Chaos, I will keep coating the pencils with bitter stuff.

    Also, yes I have to beg for board markers and all the materials in my class have been paid by me, and I'd like them to last.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Peer pressure would be a disaster. Kids are vicious creatures when they have the chance, and I know that several of his classmates are certified brats with a taste for blood.

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