Some of the seven Democrats who voted for Noem say they'd now oppose her in the wake of Trump's aggressive deportation plans and last week's incident involving Sen. Alex Padilla.

Five days after Donald Trump's inauguration, seven Senate Democrats voted to confirm Kristi Noem to lead the Department of Homeland Security.

Nearly 5 months later, most of them are critical of her, with some going as far as to say they regret their votes.

"I'm very disappointed. I'm very disappointed in her," Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., told NBC News this week. "If I were voting on her today, I definitely wouldn't vote for her."

Freshman Sen. Andy Kim, D-N.J., also said he would vote differently and oppose her nomination if he could do it again.

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[–] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

IMO, it was performative. I think the Democratic Party for the most part is controlled opposition for the owner-class. It's foolish to continue to support them, or really any facet of this oppressive government.

Clean 'em all out and let's build anew.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Yup. We need a new party, with the goal of overhauling the political system so that we aren't stuck with Geronocrats nor Turdpublicans. First past the post has led to being forced to choose between a log and diarrhea.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Nobody said they weren't, but they amount to the same problem in reality. I'm also tired of doing the same thing over and over and expecting new results. We've done it your way for decades and all they do is capture all leftward pressure and defuse it. Forcing our march ever rightward. They work for the owner class, not for you or me.

    We're in this situation because of your line of thinking. On average there are 40% of eligible voters that don't vote, and that's in the Presidential race only. It's much higher for nearly all offices, outside of the ones we vote on every 4 years. I believe this apathy is brought about because these people see no value in voting, as it changes nothing meaningful in their lives. This isn't to say that they weren't better, but anytime they had to make progressive moves, they make conservative ones that benefit the owner class.

    At some point it's time to wake up and do something different.

    Edit: Typos

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm not a Trump fan. But I've been an adult long enough to remember this being said about just about every election. That yeah we should do better we will eventually do better but not this time, right now it's most important to get rid of the other party or make them lose the election no matter what. It's the same thing every few years.

    It's like hitting the snooze button over and over and over again, if you keep hitting it eventually your alarm times out or you just end up late for work.

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    With respect, if you've never in 70 years heard the argument that 'this specific election is too important, we have to nominate the best chance to beat the other guy', then you must either not be paying attention or your memory is failing you.
    In fact, go back to 2016 and that is exactly what happened. Hillary was seen as the 'safe' option to put up against Trump, Bernie was the 'radical candidate who wouldn't get broad popular support'.

    I am NOT drawing an equivalence between Donald Trump and other presidents. I am talking purely about campaigns and the discourse about them.

    I don't like Trump, but he's on his second term. He's done. He's not running for election again. The question is, what do we do in 2028? Who do we put forward for the nation's consideration?
    Is it going to be another Hillary / Kamala type 'safe' candidate? Because they haven't done so well of late.
    Or is it going to be somebody who has a strong message of principle, someone who can energize millions in the same way that Barack Obama did and Donald Trump did more recently?

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