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[–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Wasn't there a post here a while back about how half the people here are only here because they were too toxic to be anywhere else? If I'm not remembering wrong, I feel like that post could be relevant.

Anyway, I read the entry from the original post and it's not entirely wrong, thought it definitely depends on the instance you use. Still, some of it is pretty damning for the concept as a whole. Hopefully some standard health/safety features become the norm.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    This is true of many reddit alternatives unfortunately. A large portion of the first-wave are going to include a lot people banned from everywhere else.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    In fairness, the biggest single wave of new users here game from the Reddit API change killing 3rd party apps two years ago. Though unsure how many stuck around from then, but at least there was a large group of people coming here voluntarily rather than ban evading.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    Yeah I was speaking generally, not specifically to the Fediverse. I don't really observe it as uniquely worse than Reddit at all.

    I tried two reddit alternatives before I came to the Fediverse, and unfortunately there were amongst the intake - a lot of maladaptives.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That was the first big wave, but lemmy was already somewhat active. Previously lemmy was used by the tankies. Hexbear also existed before the api migration, their sub was banned from reddit previously.

    I used to have an account on raddle, a similar alternative, the 2 biggest sub there were about anarchism and shoplifting.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The non fediverse reddit clones were VERRY tocic. But we are not.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Not true: Lemm.ee famously did not defederate from most instances including hexbear.net, and likewise take a look at how short the blocklist is on Lemmy.zip. And mander.xyz only blocks Threads and literally nothing else (at least, not at the entire instance level where it would show up in their blocklist).

    Exploding-heads was defederated from almost everywhere, but also it imploded all on its own independently (tbf, after the waves of defederations).

    Anyway, Lemm.ee was pretty huge - wasn't it the #2 instance after lemmy.world? - and lemmy.zip is fairly large as well.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There have been MANY such posts. Here's one of them: https://dubvee.org/post/dubvee.org/3334313. Here's another. And another - seriously there are whole entire communities dedicated to just the tankie subtopic underneath the wider one of toxicity as a whole, such as !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    half the people here are only here because they were too toxic to be anywhere else?

    This is an obvious generalization that is in no way verifiable with any level of quality, right? This is that classic bias from loudest most visible nuisances(not the correct name for it, but I feel it's good enough)

    At the end of the day, toxic users are the way they are due to a relationship with attention. So long as we are the little guy who's focused on interest-driven communities, toxic users will not feel welcome here by default.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    I feel like that's more true for other reddit / social media alternatives as there's no "pull" factors. They're often set up just like reddit as a for profit centralized platform, so the only reason you'd join is if you got pushed off the main platform, ie trump going to truth social after he got banned.

    Lemmy and the fediverse offer pull factors in that it is decentralized, open source, and not for profit usually run by hobbyists, which appeals to Linux nerds, anarchists, socialists, communists etc. Who may be pulled to the platform even if they haven't been kicked off the main central platform.

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