▲ 145 ▼ WHERE'S TOM (media.piefed.social) submitted 1 year ago by PugJesus@piefed.social to c/lotrmemes@piefed.social 19 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] doomcanoe@piefed.social 18 points 1 year ago (11 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean it's not like they went out and filmed new stuff for the extended versions, it was just stuff they had cut from theatrical. It would make no sense to have filmed stuff they weren't planning on putting in the movie in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (7 children) They also skipped the whole "the entwives went feral and are all rooted near the shire" bit too, though that's fair since the hobbits never made the connection/told the ents about it. Would have been a good sub plot point to emphasize that tragedy though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Bubs@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I thought the entwives went out east before they disappeared, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago I mean, sure, but how else can you explain the ominous forest near the shire that misleads at best, and outright attacks people at worse? Especially since the ents never find the wives while looking east, and described what happens when ents get depressed as losing rationality, the ability to walk, and increased aggression, etc etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] egrets@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Sorry to be contrarian, but fuck "went feral." They just did their own thing. They had no obligation to live in Fangorn forest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) I say going feral, as that forest is clearly hostile to anyone that enters, but the trees are rooted and don't visibly relocate, nor did they ever get described as being able to communicate (except, I guess, a clear GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] egrets@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh right – I don't think Tolkien gives any indication that the Old Forest near Buckland has anything to do with the entwives? It's insanely old, contemporary to Bombadil even, and the only named tree is characterized as male. I like the idea though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah, it never got revisited/explicitly mentioned, but between the description of the forest, and the way the ents describe what happens when they are alone for too long, its hard not to think the forest is full of entwives. The only named tree being male could be that a single male went with/found/was born among the entwives and also 'went feral', or it could be a mistranslation (in world or IRL) or the gender used got changed over time as people forgot it was a female tree (as it has been far too long since I read any Tolkien books to remember who voiced the trees name - if it was Bombadil this point is obviously moot) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] egrets@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It is indeed Tom Bombadil. You won't be surprised to hear he has an entire song for Old Man Willow. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DNS@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago I think for the average viewer they would had been confused with Tom being included, given that the ring had no effect on him. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean it's not like they went out and filmed new stuff for the extended versions, it was just stuff they had cut from theatrical. It would make no sense to have filmed stuff they weren't planning on putting in the movie in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (7 children) They also skipped the whole "the entwives went feral and are all rooted near the shire" bit too, though that's fair since the hobbits never made the connection/told the ents about it. Would have been a good sub plot point to emphasize that tragedy though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Bubs@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I thought the entwives went out east before they disappeared, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago I mean, sure, but how else can you explain the ominous forest near the shire that misleads at best, and outright attacks people at worse? Especially since the ents never find the wives while looking east, and described what happens when ents get depressed as losing rationality, the ability to walk, and increased aggression, etc etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] egrets@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Sorry to be contrarian, but fuck "went feral." They just did their own thing. They had no obligation to live in Fangorn forest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) I say going feral, as that forest is clearly hostile to anyone that enters, but the trees are rooted and don't visibly relocate, nor did they ever get described as being able to communicate (except, I guess, a clear GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] egrets@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh right – I don't think Tolkien gives any indication that the Old Forest near Buckland has anything to do with the entwives? It's insanely old, contemporary to Bombadil even, and the only named tree is characterized as male. I like the idea though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah, it never got revisited/explicitly mentioned, but between the description of the forest, and the way the ents describe what happens when they are alone for too long, its hard not to think the forest is full of entwives. The only named tree being male could be that a single male went with/found/was born among the entwives and also 'went feral', or it could be a mistranslation (in world or IRL) or the gender used got changed over time as people forgot it was a female tree (as it has been far too long since I read any Tolkien books to remember who voiced the trees name - if it was Bombadil this point is obviously moot) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] egrets@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It is indeed Tom Bombadil. You won't be surprised to hear he has an entire song for Old Man Willow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bubs@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I thought the entwives went out east before they disappeared, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago I mean, sure, but how else can you explain the ominous forest near the shire that misleads at best, and outright attacks people at worse? Especially since the ents never find the wives while looking east, and described what happens when ents get depressed as losing rationality, the ability to walk, and increased aggression, etc etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago I mean, sure, but how else can you explain the ominous forest near the shire that misleads at best, and outright attacks people at worse? Especially since the ents never find the wives while looking east, and described what happens when ents get depressed as losing rationality, the ability to walk, and increased aggression, etc etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] egrets@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Sorry to be contrarian, but fuck "went feral." They just did their own thing. They had no obligation to live in Fangorn forest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) I say going feral, as that forest is clearly hostile to anyone that enters, but the trees are rooted and don't visibly relocate, nor did they ever get described as being able to communicate (except, I guess, a clear GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] egrets@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh right – I don't think Tolkien gives any indication that the Old Forest near Buckland has anything to do with the entwives? It's insanely old, contemporary to Bombadil even, and the only named tree is characterized as male. I like the idea though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah, it never got revisited/explicitly mentioned, but between the description of the forest, and the way the ents describe what happens when they are alone for too long, its hard not to think the forest is full of entwives. The only named tree being male could be that a single male went with/found/was born among the entwives and also 'went feral', or it could be a mistranslation (in world or IRL) or the gender used got changed over time as people forgot it was a female tree (as it has been far too long since I read any Tolkien books to remember who voiced the trees name - if it was Bombadil this point is obviously moot) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] egrets@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It is indeed Tom Bombadil. You won't be surprised to hear he has an entire song for Old Man Willow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) I say going feral, as that forest is clearly hostile to anyone that enters, but the trees are rooted and don't visibly relocate, nor did they ever get described as being able to communicate (except, I guess, a clear GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] egrets@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh right – I don't think Tolkien gives any indication that the Old Forest near Buckland has anything to do with the entwives? It's insanely old, contemporary to Bombadil even, and the only named tree is characterized as male. I like the idea though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah, it never got revisited/explicitly mentioned, but between the description of the forest, and the way the ents describe what happens when they are alone for too long, its hard not to think the forest is full of entwives. The only named tree being male could be that a single male went with/found/was born among the entwives and also 'went feral', or it could be a mistranslation (in world or IRL) or the gender used got changed over time as people forgot it was a female tree (as it has been far too long since I read any Tolkien books to remember who voiced the trees name - if it was Bombadil this point is obviously moot) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] egrets@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It is indeed Tom Bombadil. You won't be surprised to hear he has an entire song for Old Man Willow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] egrets@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh right – I don't think Tolkien gives any indication that the Old Forest near Buckland has anything to do with the entwives? It's insanely old, contemporary to Bombadil even, and the only named tree is characterized as male. I like the idea though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah, it never got revisited/explicitly mentioned, but between the description of the forest, and the way the ents describe what happens when they are alone for too long, its hard not to think the forest is full of entwives. The only named tree being male could be that a single male went with/found/was born among the entwives and also 'went feral', or it could be a mistranslation (in world or IRL) or the gender used got changed over time as people forgot it was a female tree (as it has been far too long since I read any Tolkien books to remember who voiced the trees name - if it was Bombadil this point is obviously moot) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] egrets@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It is indeed Tom Bombadil. You won't be surprised to hear he has an entire song for Old Man Willow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah, it never got revisited/explicitly mentioned, but between the description of the forest, and the way the ents describe what happens when they are alone for too long, its hard not to think the forest is full of entwives. The only named tree being male could be that a single male went with/found/was born among the entwives and also 'went feral', or it could be a mistranslation (in world or IRL) or the gender used got changed over time as people forgot it was a female tree (as it has been far too long since I read any Tolkien books to remember who voiced the trees name - if it was Bombadil this point is obviously moot) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] egrets@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It is indeed Tom Bombadil. You won't be surprised to hear he has an entire song for Old Man Willow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] egrets@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It is indeed Tom Bombadil. You won't be surprised to hear he has an entire song for Old Man Willow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DNS@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago I think for the average viewer they would had been confused with Tom being included, given that the ring had no effect on him. permalink fedilink source parent
