▲ 717 ▼ The Nation, oldest progressive newspaper in the US, doesn't pull any punches (www.thenation.com) submitted 1 year ago by Dwazoupp@lemmy.world to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world 103 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (6 children) freedom of speech does not equal freedom from the consequences of saying something. Exactly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (5 children) I've seen it summed it up thusly: "If your speech incites violence, don't be surprised when people use violence in response." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (4 children) So I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brisk@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're confusing incitement and provocation. Incitement involves actively encouraging action. "you're bad at hockey and your mother is large" might be provocation "It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy" is incitement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Yeah would be clearer to say "advocating for violence". permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago This is unironically true for hockey lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (5 children) I've seen it summed it up thusly: "If your speech incites violence, don't be surprised when people use violence in response." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (4 children) So I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brisk@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're confusing incitement and provocation. Incitement involves actively encouraging action. "you're bad at hockey and your mother is large" might be provocation "It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy" is incitement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Yeah would be clearer to say "advocating for violence". permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago This is unironically true for hockey lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (4 children) So I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brisk@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're confusing incitement and provocation. Incitement involves actively encouraging action. "you're bad at hockey and your mother is large" might be provocation "It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy" is incitement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Yeah would be clearer to say "advocating for violence". permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago This is unironically true for hockey lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brisk@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're confusing incitement and provocation. Incitement involves actively encouraging action. "you're bad at hockey and your mother is large" might be provocation "It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy" is incitement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Yeah would be clearer to say "advocating for violence". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Yeah would be clearer to say "advocating for violence". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Yeah would be clearer to say "advocating for violence". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago This is unironically true for hockey lol permalink fedilink source parent