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@ josh Just put out a great PSA for those still using # CalyxOs on their phone (closednetwork.social)
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@josh Just put out a great PSA for those still using #CalyxOs on their phone. Nowโ€™s the time to consider switching to @GrapheneOS for ultimate mobile #privacy and #security youtu.be/oTp8cTPH8g4?si=GboChm

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[โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

@simon @GrapheneOS @josh I'm not saying anything different. Anyone should be aware of limitations and compromises they are willing to face. Not everyone can afford pixel phones + grapheneOS combo though but still some privacy can be achieved.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    @Smarshak @simon @josh A used iPhone or Pixel is the option that's cheap and reasonably secure. The vast majority of Android devices do not provide the basics for security with or without using an alternate OS. Most alternate OSes don't keep up with basic privacy/security patches themselves. They still depend on the devices getting proper support too, which is generally not happening. Not having current privacy and security patches long after the coordinated disclosure is far below bare minimum.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago

    @GrapheneOS yup. i got my pixel 9 for $300 cad still in the box on a local marketplace site (kijiji)you can find in-box second hand phones around christmas for (comparatively) dirt cheap!@Smarshak @simon @josh

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    @GrapheneOS @Smarshak @simon @josh What are you on?? Apple now??? This is contradictory advice to your own post! grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago

    @f @Smarshak @simon @josh We said a used iPhone or Pixel that's still supported is a cheap way to obtain a reasonably secure device. It was not a recommendation to use an iPhone over GrapheneOS. A device not receiving basic privacy and security patches is not a reasonable private/secure device for anyone and is not the path people should take regardless of their threat model. Android Security Bulletin patches are a bare minimum and a very low bar. Those are not the full Android security patches.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    @f @GrapheneOS @Smarshak @simon You listed a bunch of people in your reply, who are you directing that at?

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    @josh My bad, it was directed at Graphene's rather odd answer...

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago

    @f @josh We said a used iPhone or Pixel that's still supported is a cheap way to obtain a reasonably secure device. It was not a recommendation to use an iPhone over GrapheneOS. A device not receiving basic privacy and security patches is not a reasonable private/secure device for anyone and is not the path people should take regardless of their threat model. Android Security Bulletin patches are a bare minimum and a very low bar. Those are not the full Android security patches.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago

    @GrapheneOS @simon @josh That would be perfect, if only Pixel had replaceable batteries. Does not make much sense to buy a used phone when the battery hardly last more than 2 years (new). Unless you're willing to change phone frequently, which is neither good for your wallet nor sustainable for the the environment.

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