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[–] 15 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Is he Christian? I thought I read his family was Mormon.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Unless you insist on the Trinity doctrine being an essential definition of Christianity (which I think is dumb and lacks historical context), then Mormons are a branch of Christianity.

    Mind you, there are tons of MAGA Christians who do take that stance.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    All sects tend to consider other sects heresy.

    The Church of Christ (Joseph Smith) gave birth to Latter Day Saint denominations, the largest of which being the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

    They are Christians.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Nah, unless you want to call muslims christians as well. Once you start modifying your deity, like christians did to the jewish god, or muslims did about jesus being only a prophet, you're a new religion. I'd say the same for when you change the basics of how you are saved (so I'd say that catholics and protestants are wildly different, seeing as catholics need confession and last rites to be forgiven or go to purgatory). Mormons hold that jesus and satan are brothers, that you need to go proselytize for a certain period of time, that there are planets instead of heaven (I guess heavenly bodies if we want to play with wording, whatever), etc.

    Contrast that with the difference between methodists and baptists, or presbyterians and lutherans, where basically it's all window dressing. You might get some proscriptions, like no dancing or drinking for baptists, but fundamentally the beliefs don't change.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Mormons see Jesus as the Messiah, their lord and savior. They have an additional prophet, but they are Christian because Christ is their savior.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    Yeah, I was raised Catholic, which is basically polytheism, imo (I was taught to pray to St. Christopher for lost things and to St. Jude for cancer patients, asking them to talk to Yahweh for me, but I was also taught to pray directly to Mary, which nudges it over the line for me- that’s not even addressing the trinity issue), and that’s definitely Christian. I’ve heard some Baptists say it isn’t, but they’re just wrong and spreading antipapist propaganda, even if unintentionally.

    I was also taught that there are three extant sects of Christianity: Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, and Protestantism (edit: not sure where Coptic Christians fell, but I suspect Orthodox). Jehovah’s Witness and Mormons are technically a type of Protestant (at least according to the Catholic Church), though I get how they could feel separate (and separate from each other). Quakers, Shakers, and Unitarians are also Protestants and also feel like their own thing, but in a very different way.

    Lutheran, Episcopalian, and Catholic church services/masses all feel basically the same to me, except for transubstantiation of the Eucharist, which Protestants by and large don’t believe in.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    What makes you think that Mormons aren't Christians?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Mormons have their own book which is basically fan-fic of the bible and new testament. So it's kinda like if you met someone who calls themselves a Trekkie, but they've never seen any of the shows and have only read fan-fic. Would a Trekkie accept them as one of their own?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Mormons read the Bible. They'd be Trek super-fans who think their favorite fic-writer is better than Roddenberry, but they would have watched ToS and NG at least.

    Source: raised cultist. Have a Mormon "quad" of all the holy texts somewhere in storage.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They're polytheistic for one, and think they can become their own god of a planet if they're 'good' enough.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Wait, I thought it was heaven, men’s heaven, men’s super heaven, and men’s super duper heaven. You’re telling me there’s a super *de duper heaven?

    *Ottocorect succ

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Kinda, this is for the super duper extra good double stampies no erasies Mormons. When they die, they get to super Saiyan transform into a god-heir right up there with Jesus and eventually get their own planet to rule over like their god rules here.

    And I'm only being a little flippant, Exaltation is a wacky belief.

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