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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (4 children) Is that the whataboutism they keep accusing us of? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonSidedD@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (3 children) Yes, that is exactly what this is. It is simultaneously true that: The USA has been the global hegemon for almost a century. During this time it has committed serious crimes and needlessly caused many civilian deaths in pursuit of its political goals. To make matters worse, the current US President is overtly antidemocratic and credibly threatening allies and enemies alike. AND The regime in Iran is overtly theocratic -- and therefore fundamentally disconnected from reality. Its leaders, their media, and as such some of society at large has a Blame-Everyone-Else mentality that MAGA would find extreme. They honestly, truly, deeply believe that God will relieve their suffering only if they can kill all the evil Jews in the Holy Land, and restore the Just rule of Islam (which they happen to speak for). And nukes is the only realistic way they can do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children) You dronies are so transparent. You only come out to decry X country as soon as the US or its vassals attacks it. Then its all both sides bad. No country is perfect, but Iran is doing what very few countries are brave enough to do rn, and defending themselves from the child-killing scourge of the middle east. Even if you oppose Iran's sovereignty or its theocracy, you'll have to admit that Iran's theocracy does far less harm than any given western country does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonSidedD@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I did not mean to imply any moral equivalence between Iran and the USA. Iran is a genocidal apocalyptic religious autocracy. It is dangerous to modern civilization. The USA is (at present though less so recently) a liberal pluralistic Democracy, where the excesses of one person or group tend to get moderated. They are not the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Pure orientalism / white = good. The USA isn't a democracy either, its a capitalist dictatorship Your "pluralistic liberal democracy" is the most evil empire in world history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonSidedD@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (3 children) Yes, that is exactly what this is. It is simultaneously true that: The USA has been the global hegemon for almost a century. During this time it has committed serious crimes and needlessly caused many civilian deaths in pursuit of its political goals. To make matters worse, the current US President is overtly antidemocratic and credibly threatening allies and enemies alike. AND The regime in Iran is overtly theocratic -- and therefore fundamentally disconnected from reality. Its leaders, their media, and as such some of society at large has a Blame-Everyone-Else mentality that MAGA would find extreme. They honestly, truly, deeply believe that God will relieve their suffering only if they can kill all the evil Jews in the Holy Land, and restore the Just rule of Islam (which they happen to speak for). And nukes is the only realistic way they can do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children) You dronies are so transparent. You only come out to decry X country as soon as the US or its vassals attacks it. Then its all both sides bad. No country is perfect, but Iran is doing what very few countries are brave enough to do rn, and defending themselves from the child-killing scourge of the middle east. Even if you oppose Iran's sovereignty or its theocracy, you'll have to admit that Iran's theocracy does far less harm than any given western country does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonSidedD@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I did not mean to imply any moral equivalence between Iran and the USA. Iran is a genocidal apocalyptic religious autocracy. It is dangerous to modern civilization. The USA is (at present though less so recently) a liberal pluralistic Democracy, where the excesses of one person or group tend to get moderated. They are not the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Pure orientalism / white = good. The USA isn't a democracy either, its a capitalist dictatorship Your "pluralistic liberal democracy" is the most evil empire in world history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children) You dronies are so transparent. You only come out to decry X country as soon as the US or its vassals attacks it. Then its all both sides bad. No country is perfect, but Iran is doing what very few countries are brave enough to do rn, and defending themselves from the child-killing scourge of the middle east. Even if you oppose Iran's sovereignty or its theocracy, you'll have to admit that Iran's theocracy does far less harm than any given western country does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonSidedD@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I did not mean to imply any moral equivalence between Iran and the USA. Iran is a genocidal apocalyptic religious autocracy. It is dangerous to modern civilization. The USA is (at present though less so recently) a liberal pluralistic Democracy, where the excesses of one person or group tend to get moderated. They are not the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Pure orientalism / white = good. The USA isn't a democracy either, its a capitalist dictatorship Your "pluralistic liberal democracy" is the most evil empire in world history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonSidedD@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I did not mean to imply any moral equivalence between Iran and the USA. Iran is a genocidal apocalyptic religious autocracy. It is dangerous to modern civilization. The USA is (at present though less so recently) a liberal pluralistic Democracy, where the excesses of one person or group tend to get moderated. They are not the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Pure orientalism / white = good. The USA isn't a democracy either, its a capitalist dictatorship Your "pluralistic liberal democracy" is the most evil empire in world history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Pure orientalism / white = good. The USA isn't a democracy either, its a capitalist dictatorship Your "pluralistic liberal democracy" is the most evil empire in world history. permalink fedilink source parent