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Do you think this is true about socialism? (feddit.nl)
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Socialism will never work because it’s founded on emancipation, and you can’t force people to emancipate themselves. That would be the opposite of emancipation.

I’m not sure if this is a quote, I can’t remember where I heard it.

"Emancipation" in this case meaning emancipation from wage slavery.

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[–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There are countries that were made democratic not by the people but their dictator/monarch. Why couldn’t the same happen with socialism?

Also one should consider that (at least in the non Stalinist definition) socialism more or less just means worker coops. There are worker coops. There is the theoretical possibility that their numbers rise until private companies are basically non existent. Socialism doesn’t necessarily require a revolution.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Just because something is made a democracy in principle doesn't mean it's democracy in action.

    Often these proto-democracies are more prone to corruptive influence because their populace is under-educated and eager for someone to give them easy answers to their problems.

    That's a major reason the US is in the state it is, despite there still being a great deal of political power in the hands of the populace.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Good point. So why do we have wage slavery instead of everyone being involved in coops?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Because usually companies get founded. If you want to found a company you want investors. Investors don’t really invest in worker coops. That (and a few other reasons) mean most companies are formed as private companies. Worker coops mostly form when workers are sick of how they are treated and think they can do better on their own.

    A willing government could subsidize worker coops and encourage their creation to make them more common

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