▲ 62 ▼ Any FLOSS alternative's to Ground News? (lemy.lol) submitted 1 year ago by CuriousSkeptic42@lemy.lol to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world 34 comments fedilink hide all child comments Does anyone know FLOSS replacements for Ground News? I've seen some good things Ground News does. Like seeing the same story under different media outlets and seeing representation of a story across the political spectrum. I currently use RSS feed readers, I think something like what Ground is, would help organize my media at least. This is the website: https://web.ground.news/
[–] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 158 points 1 year ago (15 children) Ground news is a service, if you like it, pay for it. That kind of stuff is not where FOSS excels permalink fedilink source hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 11 points 1 year ago (14 children) I could see an alternative where the community curates and assigns the political learnings. But yeah, otherwise it is just a service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (10 children) that's what lemmy does, with a slight bias towards communism... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 7 points 1 year ago (7 children) It's more socialism than communism. But ofcourse depends on which side of lemmy you are on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago Well I for one only get my news from Hexbear permalink fedilink source parent [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I see a lot of Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism. but people here are also more socialist in general. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I am trekkie then. I want a post scarcity future where EVERYONE is equal and all we care about is exploring space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago wtf permalink fedilink source parent [+] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Socialiam is just people lying about communist tendencies because from each according to their ability to each accorsing to their contribution is foolish, as their output from capability is the contribution. To say otherwise is just more convoluted communism because you are juat changing the value metric on what their need is in the communist base ideaology of from each according to their ability to each according to their need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Can't understand this, you'll have to simplify. If you mean to say socialism is communism lite. Sure, that's exactly what it is. That's a good transitory model. Direct transition is susceptible to hijacking by fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago There is no fundamental difference between socialism and communism. One says you get what you need, one says you get something based on what you contribute but need and contribute are not defined by the person they are defined by some external group based on nothing other than their feelings. It's just word games masking the underlying reality that one group is butt hurt about what some other group was able to get for their input and the first group wants to confiscate that output for themselves. Both groups concentrate power in government, both groups are very susceptible to being taken over by a strong man dictator, both don't end in utopia, they end in suffering under some dictator. Socialists are just communists trying to soften the language around what they are butt hurt about to make it more palatable in the hopes enough people fall for that stupidity that they can implement their confiscation plan to reach their utopia (which never, ever happens. It devolves into dictatorship and suffering or is in the process of doing that). Fascists are just another brand of utopian dictator that ends in suffering (their rhetoric seems to be built around disgust rather than envy but other than that it's a train to the same gulag). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Benaaasaaas@group.lt 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Slight? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago almost not noticeable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CuriousSkeptic42@lemy.lol [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Interesting. But even something that groups the same story under all the outlets would be great. So you can see different coverage of the same story. Of course it would be dynamic. You just add all the RSS feeds you want. Transformers models may be useful for that clustering task, if you have a ground truth and reasonable scaffold. Btw I don't use Ground news, just like some of the features sponsors such as Youtubers talk about. I think getting news from a centralised service is dangerous principally, especially if proprietary/SaSS. But that's just my view, I am a software engineer in a junior role. Perhaps someone may have done a small project for this. Interested if anyone knows good FLOSS solutions to this problem of multiple outlets reporting same story. (Duplication). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You should make one. It could be fun to make. Since how you define something as being one political leaning over another is subjective (mostly), You could allow community to label the outlets and let it reflect current views and use feddy protocol, so you can have multiple aggregators that have different labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CuriousSkeptic42@lemy.lol [S] 2 points 4 months ago Someone made it https://github.com/JamesClarke7283/FulcrumNews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 11 points 1 year ago (14 children) I could see an alternative where the community curates and assigns the political learnings. But yeah, otherwise it is just a service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (10 children) that's what lemmy does, with a slight bias towards communism... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 7 points 1 year ago (7 children) It's more socialism than communism. But ofcourse depends on which side of lemmy you are on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago Well I for one only get my news from Hexbear permalink fedilink source parent [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I see a lot of Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism. but people here are also more socialist in general. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I am trekkie then. I want a post scarcity future where EVERYONE is equal and all we care about is exploring space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago wtf permalink fedilink source parent [+] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Socialiam is just people lying about communist tendencies because from each according to their ability to each accorsing to their contribution is foolish, as their output from capability is the contribution. To say otherwise is just more convoluted communism because you are juat changing the value metric on what their need is in the communist base ideaology of from each according to their ability to each according to their need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Can't understand this, you'll have to simplify. If you mean to say socialism is communism lite. Sure, that's exactly what it is. That's a good transitory model. Direct transition is susceptible to hijacking by fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago There is no fundamental difference between socialism and communism. One says you get what you need, one says you get something based on what you contribute but need and contribute are not defined by the person they are defined by some external group based on nothing other than their feelings. It's just word games masking the underlying reality that one group is butt hurt about what some other group was able to get for their input and the first group wants to confiscate that output for themselves. Both groups concentrate power in government, both groups are very susceptible to being taken over by a strong man dictator, both don't end in utopia, they end in suffering under some dictator. Socialists are just communists trying to soften the language around what they are butt hurt about to make it more palatable in the hopes enough people fall for that stupidity that they can implement their confiscation plan to reach their utopia (which never, ever happens. It devolves into dictatorship and suffering or is in the process of doing that). Fascists are just another brand of utopian dictator that ends in suffering (their rhetoric seems to be built around disgust rather than envy but other than that it's a train to the same gulag). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Benaaasaaas@group.lt 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Slight? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago almost not noticeable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CuriousSkeptic42@lemy.lol [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Interesting. But even something that groups the same story under all the outlets would be great. So you can see different coverage of the same story. Of course it would be dynamic. You just add all the RSS feeds you want. Transformers models may be useful for that clustering task, if you have a ground truth and reasonable scaffold. Btw I don't use Ground news, just like some of the features sponsors such as Youtubers talk about. I think getting news from a centralised service is dangerous principally, especially if proprietary/SaSS. But that's just my view, I am a software engineer in a junior role. Perhaps someone may have done a small project for this. Interested if anyone knows good FLOSS solutions to this problem of multiple outlets reporting same story. (Duplication). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You should make one. It could be fun to make. Since how you define something as being one political leaning over another is subjective (mostly), You could allow community to label the outlets and let it reflect current views and use feddy protocol, so you can have multiple aggregators that have different labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CuriousSkeptic42@lemy.lol [S] 2 points 4 months ago Someone made it https://github.com/JamesClarke7283/FulcrumNews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (10 children) that's what lemmy does, with a slight bias towards communism... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 7 points 1 year ago (7 children) It's more socialism than communism. But ofcourse depends on which side of lemmy you are on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago Well I for one only get my news from Hexbear permalink fedilink source parent [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I see a lot of Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism. but people here are also more socialist in general. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I am trekkie then. I want a post scarcity future where EVERYONE is equal and all we care about is exploring space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago wtf permalink fedilink source parent [+] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Socialiam is just people lying about communist tendencies because from each according to their ability to each accorsing to their contribution is foolish, as their output from capability is the contribution. To say otherwise is just more convoluted communism because you are juat changing the value metric on what their need is in the communist base ideaology of from each according to their ability to each according to their need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Can't understand this, you'll have to simplify. If you mean to say socialism is communism lite. Sure, that's exactly what it is. That's a good transitory model. Direct transition is susceptible to hijacking by fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago There is no fundamental difference between socialism and communism. One says you get what you need, one says you get something based on what you contribute but need and contribute are not defined by the person they are defined by some external group based on nothing other than their feelings. It's just word games masking the underlying reality that one group is butt hurt about what some other group was able to get for their input and the first group wants to confiscate that output for themselves. Both groups concentrate power in government, both groups are very susceptible to being taken over by a strong man dictator, both don't end in utopia, they end in suffering under some dictator. Socialists are just communists trying to soften the language around what they are butt hurt about to make it more palatable in the hopes enough people fall for that stupidity that they can implement their confiscation plan to reach their utopia (which never, ever happens. It devolves into dictatorship and suffering or is in the process of doing that). Fascists are just another brand of utopian dictator that ends in suffering (their rhetoric seems to be built around disgust rather than envy but other than that it's a train to the same gulag). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Benaaasaaas@group.lt 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Slight? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago almost not noticeable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 7 points 1 year ago (7 children) It's more socialism than communism. But ofcourse depends on which side of lemmy you are on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago Well I for one only get my news from Hexbear permalink fedilink source parent [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I see a lot of Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism. but people here are also more socialist in general. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I am trekkie then. I want a post scarcity future where EVERYONE is equal and all we care about is exploring space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago wtf permalink fedilink source parent [+] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Socialiam is just people lying about communist tendencies because from each according to their ability to each accorsing to their contribution is foolish, as their output from capability is the contribution. To say otherwise is just more convoluted communism because you are juat changing the value metric on what their need is in the communist base ideaology of from each according to their ability to each according to their need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Can't understand this, you'll have to simplify. If you mean to say socialism is communism lite. Sure, that's exactly what it is. That's a good transitory model. Direct transition is susceptible to hijacking by fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago There is no fundamental difference between socialism and communism. One says you get what you need, one says you get something based on what you contribute but need and contribute are not defined by the person they are defined by some external group based on nothing other than their feelings. It's just word games masking the underlying reality that one group is butt hurt about what some other group was able to get for their input and the first group wants to confiscate that output for themselves. Both groups concentrate power in government, both groups are very susceptible to being taken over by a strong man dictator, both don't end in utopia, they end in suffering under some dictator. Socialists are just communists trying to soften the language around what they are butt hurt about to make it more palatable in the hopes enough people fall for that stupidity that they can implement their confiscation plan to reach their utopia (which never, ever happens. It devolves into dictatorship and suffering or is in the process of doing that). Fascists are just another brand of utopian dictator that ends in suffering (their rhetoric seems to be built around disgust rather than envy but other than that it's a train to the same gulag). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago Well I for one only get my news from Hexbear permalink fedilink source parent
[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I see a lot of Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism. but people here are also more socialist in general. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I am trekkie then. I want a post scarcity future where EVERYONE is equal and all we care about is exploring space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago wtf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I am trekkie then. I want a post scarcity future where EVERYONE is equal and all we care about is exploring space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago wtf permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world -9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Socialiam is just people lying about communist tendencies because from each according to their ability to each accorsing to their contribution is foolish, as their output from capability is the contribution. To say otherwise is just more convoluted communism because you are juat changing the value metric on what their need is in the communist base ideaology of from each according to their ability to each according to their need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Can't understand this, you'll have to simplify. If you mean to say socialism is communism lite. Sure, that's exactly what it is. That's a good transitory model. Direct transition is susceptible to hijacking by fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago There is no fundamental difference between socialism and communism. One says you get what you need, one says you get something based on what you contribute but need and contribute are not defined by the person they are defined by some external group based on nothing other than their feelings. It's just word games masking the underlying reality that one group is butt hurt about what some other group was able to get for their input and the first group wants to confiscate that output for themselves. Both groups concentrate power in government, both groups are very susceptible to being taken over by a strong man dictator, both don't end in utopia, they end in suffering under some dictator. Socialists are just communists trying to soften the language around what they are butt hurt about to make it more palatable in the hopes enough people fall for that stupidity that they can implement their confiscation plan to reach their utopia (which never, ever happens. It devolves into dictatorship and suffering or is in the process of doing that). Fascists are just another brand of utopian dictator that ends in suffering (their rhetoric seems to be built around disgust rather than envy but other than that it's a train to the same gulag). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Can't understand this, you'll have to simplify. If you mean to say socialism is communism lite. Sure, that's exactly what it is. That's a good transitory model. Direct transition is susceptible to hijacking by fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago There is no fundamental difference between socialism and communism. One says you get what you need, one says you get something based on what you contribute but need and contribute are not defined by the person they are defined by some external group based on nothing other than their feelings. It's just word games masking the underlying reality that one group is butt hurt about what some other group was able to get for their input and the first group wants to confiscate that output for themselves. Both groups concentrate power in government, both groups are very susceptible to being taken over by a strong man dictator, both don't end in utopia, they end in suffering under some dictator. Socialists are just communists trying to soften the language around what they are butt hurt about to make it more palatable in the hopes enough people fall for that stupidity that they can implement their confiscation plan to reach their utopia (which never, ever happens. It devolves into dictatorship and suffering or is in the process of doing that). Fascists are just another brand of utopian dictator that ends in suffering (their rhetoric seems to be built around disgust rather than envy but other than that it's a train to the same gulag). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago There is no fundamental difference between socialism and communism. One says you get what you need, one says you get something based on what you contribute but need and contribute are not defined by the person they are defined by some external group based on nothing other than their feelings. It's just word games masking the underlying reality that one group is butt hurt about what some other group was able to get for their input and the first group wants to confiscate that output for themselves. Both groups concentrate power in government, both groups are very susceptible to being taken over by a strong man dictator, both don't end in utopia, they end in suffering under some dictator. Socialists are just communists trying to soften the language around what they are butt hurt about to make it more palatable in the hopes enough people fall for that stupidity that they can implement their confiscation plan to reach their utopia (which never, ever happens. It devolves into dictatorship and suffering or is in the process of doing that). Fascists are just another brand of utopian dictator that ends in suffering (their rhetoric seems to be built around disgust rather than envy but other than that it's a train to the same gulag). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Benaaasaaas@group.lt 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Slight? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago almost not noticeable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago almost not noticeable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CuriousSkeptic42@lemy.lol [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Interesting. But even something that groups the same story under all the outlets would be great. So you can see different coverage of the same story. Of course it would be dynamic. You just add all the RSS feeds you want. Transformers models may be useful for that clustering task, if you have a ground truth and reasonable scaffold. Btw I don't use Ground news, just like some of the features sponsors such as Youtubers talk about. I think getting news from a centralised service is dangerous principally, especially if proprietary/SaSS. But that's just my view, I am a software engineer in a junior role. Perhaps someone may have done a small project for this. Interested if anyone knows good FLOSS solutions to this problem of multiple outlets reporting same story. (Duplication). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You should make one. It could be fun to make. Since how you define something as being one political leaning over another is subjective (mostly), You could allow community to label the outlets and let it reflect current views and use feddy protocol, so you can have multiple aggregators that have different labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CuriousSkeptic42@lemy.lol [S] 2 points 4 months ago Someone made it https://github.com/JamesClarke7283/FulcrumNews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You should make one. It could be fun to make. Since how you define something as being one political leaning over another is subjective (mostly), You could allow community to label the outlets and let it reflect current views and use feddy protocol, so you can have multiple aggregators that have different labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CuriousSkeptic42@lemy.lol [S] 2 points 4 months ago Someone made it https://github.com/JamesClarke7283/FulcrumNews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CuriousSkeptic42@lemy.lol [S] 2 points 4 months ago Someone made it https://github.com/JamesClarke7283/FulcrumNews permalink fedilink source parent