What do you think this is bush week?

I missed out on a six-digit icq number by about a week. My mate. My mate didn't miss out and yeah - it was quite the flex giving out his six digit icq.

I just added my aussie.zone nick to my reddit profile. Considering that account itself is almost a teenager, should be good.

Don't make me break out my livejournal. I'll do it. I'm a madwoman.

Everyone photograph your antacid collection!

I'll write my username above my pubes with a sharpie. That'll prove I'm 16, yeah?

There is no requirement that the verification actually actually be personal information. So far, the responses have all convinced me they were of age, and zero of them have had any personal information. Only one user has included a part of themselves in a photo and it's probably my favourite response - but it isn't personally identifiable.

But you are also correct - we need to destroy stuff like government if provided. Which is even more work than this headache already is. So we don't want that as a method.

Is there going to be a spike in alcohol sales because of this ban?

Could i even say... beer and pints.. to the moon?!? 🌜🪙🍺💱🍻💲🌛

Watch out bars of Australia! Here comes the Lemmy wave!

I had previously got a similar impression from the eSafety Commissioner's publication of those lists of platforms, but it does not seem to be the case they are actually defining regulation there. The lists seem to be, essentially, only statements of intent about which platforms that eSafety will seek enforcement of compliance on.

See here: https://www.esafety.gov.au/about-us/industry-regulation/social-media-age-restrictions/which-platforms-are-age-restricted

eSafety does not have a formal role in declaring which services are age-restricted social media platforms. In the absence of any rules made by the Minister of Communications specifying a service is either an age-restricted social media platform or not an age-restricted social media platform, any determination that a service is or is not an age-restricted social media platform is a matter for the court.

Would a message from a seven year old mastodon account work? I mean technically I could have made that when I was 8.

Or an old blog that I had back in 2012. I guess I could have been 3 when I wrote it. Certainly the writing could be that of a three year old.

I was under 30 when I made this account.

I no longer am.

Dunno if that counts.

Am I allowed to deliberately ignore that part of the message because it's more fun to be verified in public?

Oh and if that's not enough, hopefully you can believe that I didn't have Reddit at the age of 3 years old on an account that is today 13?

gaming off floppy discs as a child

Dang. I'm a little younger than you. We had floppy disks when I was in year 1 & 2, but I remember having a Powerpoint project where some of the kids' Powerpoint files were too big to fit on a floppy.

This is the first round of verification. There will be more than one. At some point I'll resort to sending direct messages to stragglers.

The law is vague about our requirements. It's vague on lots of things.

We need to proactively ban users who identify themselves as children. We don't have to immediately ban every unverified account, but at some point we're going to need to have some sort of record of age verification for active users.

Waste of everyone's time? Yep.

Proof of age:

I'm using method 3 and telling you that I never watched a lot of the show, but I have a very strong distinct memory of one episode of Round the Twist (last released in 2001, 24 years ago) where one of the characters gains the ability to read minds. But then it messes up and suddenly it reverses, so everyone can read their mind instead. That's the only episode that's absolutely seared into my brain for some reason.

I also distinctly remember at one point somewhere in the range '99-'04, a block of children's programming (I think it was on the ABC) on a Friday, which you knew was over when the MASH theme started playing. I've never properly watched the show, but Suicide is Painless is stuck in my head because of that fact. I don't even know how long that block of programming lasted.

how about a HRT label pic

Definitely should qualify if you're in Queensland!

Fwiw although the legislation says it applies to all social media, it seems as though the regulation that's been imposed by the eSafety commissioner to actually implement that legislation relies on designating platforms. And AZ has not been designated. Only "Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Threads, TikTok, Twitch, X, YouTube, Kick and Reddit are age-restricted platforms". So it seems as though there may not be any obligation for us to comply.

IANAL though, so take this with salt.

But if you are going to preemptively comply, taking the chinwag approach as you have seems like a pretty good method.

What happens to anyone that doesn't message Molly?

I just mentioned rewinding VHS tapes and loving limpbizkit, is this proof :|

https://aussie.zone/post/27191076/20122605

I guess the question I have, what % of us are under 30? Do people under 30 know about the internet outside of instagram/reddit/facebook/youtube?

Hi Molly. I’m a bona fide fossil

“Not happy Jan!”

Just be aware that there’s an infinitesimal chance (but not zero) that whatever you send may be sent to some government agency to demonstrate that we are complying with the law.

On this point, as I understand it, the personal information provided for verification can - and indeed should - be destroyed once it has been used for the purpose it was provided.

I assume you might need to keep a (non-identifying) record of how a user was age-verified to prove that you've been complying, but not the personal data used to do the verification.

Albo has been claiming that Australian privacy law requires that the data be destroyed once it's used for age verification, but the language of the law I think has 'reasonable' in there, which gives more wiggle room than the GDPR, for example. It was discussed on the Law Report on Radio National: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/lawreport/countdown-to-australia-s-social-media-ban/105871968 (sorry, no idea of the timestamp, and there doesn't seem to be a transcript either)

What happens if I don't get around to it by the 10th? Will my account be deleted, or temporarily disabled until I provide proof? I likely won't be able to do it in time.

Also, is it ok to send govt ID with the info blacked out (with Date of birth visible)?