@Feyd I think they're fighting to stay relevant, and that means focus on AI. The market share of people that do not want it in the IDE must be minuscule, if the entire team jumped the gun. I agree they used to be the reliable choice, the IDE that just works, and works best. It seems this image is being sidelined in favor of keeping up with what the majority needs from them in order not to switch to Cursor. @slesa

I have moved to terminal applications. Micro is my current pick but I'm just editing scripts and doing basic things most of the time.

@kibblebitsIntellij for almost anything, python, go, javascript, groovy, xquery (marklogic) and sometimes even java. Also many piles of yaml for automation.It takes some effort to get it working, especially xquery, but for me there is no competition.

Ahhhh. Got it. Thanks.

For years, the java installer would say "3 billion devices run java", and the number never changed from 3 billion for years, like almost a decade. So the joke is that there was, is, and always will be exactly 3 billion devices that run java. https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/spiceworks/original/4X/5/1/d/51d190fa52d4fc75d5c64ca6cf6892380efbbf21.jpeg

I don’t understand your comment.

Must be, only 3 billion devices run java, so if you want to continue growing, you have to invest in something else.

@kibblebits it’s such a primitive IDE and lacks so much that we take for granted nowadays. It makes running on devices easy and handles the overly complex certificate handling easier, but that’s it. The debugger is atrocious, no refactoring, bad code editing, no sane tabs, slow…

Oh amen, I hate Xcode. I appreciate the ease with working with devices and the App Store, but doing any actual work inside it sucks.

@kibblebits @nemeski PyCharm, CLion, Android Studio and RustRover. I wish they had something to replace Xcode too.

RustRover. AI is turned off. Love it. Though I'm somewhat OK with NeoVIM keystrokes, I fear it will take a lot of time to get to the level of comfort in debugging, auto complete, run configurations, import management, linting etc. I have with RustRover.

I use their Rider IDE for DotNet development.

There is no better IDE for PHP than PHPStorm from Jetbrains

I've been using Rider for C# for years, it's light years ahead of Visual Studio. Although, I feel like it got overwhelmingly bloated in the last few years.

Lmfao. I mean Jetbrains. I had a hard time with autocomplete and I guess by the time I got it to stop correcting me I read Netbrains as the right word 🤦‍♂️

@kibblebits Is Netbrains a mashup of Netbeans and Jetbrains? Where can I try it?

Is anyone here NOT using Java also running Jetbrains IDEs? Which and for what?

Edit: JET

@pauleveritt @jetbrains @wsvincent Glad to know I can count on you when we need the muscles 😄💪

@paulox @jetbrains @wsvincent Glad to provide the muscle

@ThePSF @baconandcoconut @jetbrains his handle is literally "baconandcoconut" 😅

I dropped my subscribtion the moment the AI bullshit started, and keep using my perpetual/fallback license for the version before that.

Once you pay for a year, you can keep using that years version indefinitely, save money and as a bonus you don't get more AI shit stuffed in your throat.

@ThePSF @baconandcoconut @jetbrains wow, that's a great reminder about how much the community adds to the tech we use.

Yes, but only the diff.

What if my change is one parameter in a function call ? The most meaningful aspect of the change lies in the definition of said function, that may not be part of the diff.

What if my change is related to another commit that I want to reference in my message ? I'd have to close the dialog, copy the commit ID, and reopen the dialog.

For an infinite amount of reasons we rarely foresee, blocking states are never good.

If I wanted VSCode, I'd use VSCode and their shitty design.

Same.

But this one thing isn't part of said shitty design.

Wat? The popup has code right in the window. If I wanted VSCode, I'd use VSCode and their shitty design.