[–] [S] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
 # A NewTiny program to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit

Begin:  [ " Enter Celsius Temperature: " ] ?  
       
     [ ? ] Celsius
 
      [ 9 5 / Celsius * 32 + ] ?  CRLF 

      HALT

Celsius=     #declare a variable

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan!

    Anyways, this is a really good translation, although all those "spread" things could use more idiomatic single-word translations. I applaud!

    Vocative is an interesting thing. When I first read about it, I dismissed it as useless. However, since then I have used it in my largest conlang project Shiofaioth (linked to in another comment) and also here, because it's just so nice.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    hey, you light in darkness

    Light is a paint
    Darkness is like a canvas
    It's like organization in chaos
    You spread the paint
    In order to spread help, spread light
    In order to spread strength, spread organization


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    Or, the same in Finnish:

    Sinulle, valo pimeydessä

    valo on maalia
    pimeys kuin kanvas
    kuin järjestystä kaaoksessa
    levität maalia
    levittääksesi apua, levitä valoa
    levittääksesi voimaa, levitä järjestystä

    (I really really like the vocative case. I wish Finnish had it!)

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago

    Thank you for your interest! There are couple of ways in which I try to accomplish that goal. First is the verbal pre- and postpositions, which force you to be open about your sources and the degree of voluntariness of what you describe (of course nothing prevents straight up lying, but at least whatever you claim is explicit and ready for inspection). There's another thing that I now realize I haven't even documented yet, even though it has been one of my main ideas. That is the lack of single word ways to say one "must" or "should" or "may" do something, with the expection being taht you explicitly say who orders or allows the action. Of course there are always ways to go around this, but the aim is that if you try to hide authority behind words, it would be clunky and noticeable.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    "It's purpose is to be as unsuitable for authoritarian propaganda as possible, so that it is difficult to hide power structures behind word choices."

    Can you explain a bit how it does that? I couldn't see how that works from a quick read through that document.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    I applaud your effort in translating that. Your translation does not perfectly match my original intentions, but it is close, and I guess there is supposed to be a subjective aspect to these things.

    Anyway, I'll send you a link to our Discord.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Okay, call me curious. I took a stab at translating the poem according to the dictionary

    Light The Darkness

    Light is the paint
    Darkness is like a canvas
    It's the same for order and chaos
    You spread the paint
    In order to help, you must spread light
    In order to be strong, you must spread order

    What's wild, is that I copypasta'd this image into a local slop machine and it managed a (worse) translation.

    (ai slop)
    Light of darkness
    --
    Light to paint
    Darkness on canvas
    Similar to organization for chaos
    You spread the paint
    To conquer, to be kind
    To construct, to organize 
    

    EDIT:

    Re-reading this, I realized I didn't make it super clear that I was interested. I guess I hoped the effort expended to try a translation would signal intent? Anyhow, I'm keen.

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