In Italy we would need these trucks, as diesel now costs about 2,4 € per liter.

No problem!

I guess this makes sense, thanks.

at first i should you meant captain kirk and i got excited and looked for him. lol

They are low, but they are also lowering. If the US wants any chance at all, it needs to strike as soon as possible, probably from the ROK or Taiwan (or a trifecta including Japan). China wins by advancing faster and faster, becoming a country that surpasses European living standards without any of the imperialism or den industrialization, while having a military the US can never hope to beat. That means they can't let off the gas for likely decades.

It's not a bad thing, though. They work ~47 hours a week on average, and their living conditions are constantly rising. I assume this number will gradually fall as well as they develop more and more. It won't likely be a button press, even if they lower the working hours legally it will still be based on objective material conditions from developed means of production.

Really? I had thought the risks are diminishing now considering the chances of the US waging a successful war campaign against china being so low.

If anything, now is the time when the US is most likely to start something, so they need to increase the gap as much as possible. Socialist countries cannot ignore the threat of the US.

Thank you western anglophone white person for your well-informed, original and free thinking correction. I was in danger of having an unapproved thought about someone the US government doesn't like.

Gotta love it when some racist liberal (redundant phrasing, I know) comes into a thread just to announce that they think it's "awful" when African people struggle against imperialism and colonialism, and are glad that a person who lifted hundreds of millions of Asian people out of poverty is dead.

I wonder how vanguard parties address aristocracies that pop out from whatever circumstances are present.

Someone Photoshop Kirk over one or two of them

I didn't mean to say they could just half the workweek or something like that. More that they shouldn't need to work as hard now that they are on par or ahead of the US.

This is more of an ultraleft take on development. China cannot simply take it easy while the US Empire is a near-peer power. Conditions will continue to improve, and working hours will continue to lower, but the fact that they have not decided that they have "enough" and pushed a hypothetical communism button is more restricted by development than political will. China is a massive country, development takes time and energy to move even the smallest countries.

Conditions have been consistently improving although many workers still face long hours and far from ideal working conditions, especially in privately owned companies. Now that the living conditions for Chinese workers are among the best in the world they should no longer need to work so hard to expand there productive forces.

Moving to capitalism hasn't changed the basic structure of a class society in the long run due to wealth capture. The basic drive to do better by your progeny causes the creation of a new de facto aristocracy over a long enough time line. So the overall societal effects will eventually repeat.

Yes they were right and justified. My point is that they failed and the anti-AI crowd is going to do so as well.

All sadly true and why it's a pity.

As far as most of America is concerned, data centers are factories that raise their prices on everything, while causing poverty.

I just learned earlier today about the people in the Russian and French revolutions attacked whatever they perceived to be cause of their problems -- it's like scapegoating immigrants or trans people but in physical structure.

people are rejecting it like the Luddites did to their textile machines

You can't still be spreading this 19th century capitalist propaganda in 2026.

The luddites were 100% in the right. They weren't "rejecting technology," they were rejecting child labor and the concentration of wealth that comes from privately owned capital (like the textile machines that enabled children to be very productive)

It's not that they're wrong, it's that the populace is acutely award that the benefits of productivity gains flow exclusively to the top 0.1% of the population. As far as most of America is concerned, data centers are factories that raise their prices on everything, while causing poverty. All the collective gains that could be made, are completely and intentionally cut off.

it really puts into perspective how wrongly americans are implementing automation like AI -- people are rejecting it like the Luddites did to their textile machines and not a single one of them seem to be aware that it didn't work for the Luddites, but are somehow convinced that it''ll work for them anyways.

I think they'd be considered farmworkers (people that work on a farm for a wage) rather than peasants (people that live/work on a farm and depend on the surplus that doesn't go to the landlord).

Telling my robot vacuum that if it works hard it can become one of these.

exactly