What's considered "stunt driving"?

THANK YOU!

That's pretty sound.

I bet!

Who here has NEVER used the AUR with their Arch install raise your hand. I'll wait.

Absolutely 100%.

Not to mention it's in most of the solutions to every problem Arch users face.

There has been approximately 1000 infected packages in the AUR on Arch. And that's just in the latest incident, because that's not even the only incident.

Now tell me how many times this happened with PPAs? OR COPR or OBS?

Also, I'm very aware of the xz-utils exploit that happened last year. And do you know what distros were affected? Beta and testing versions of Fedora and Debian, which are not the most widely used versions of these distros. They are not meant for the public, but for developers and testers. However, the latest stable Arch was affected. Here's the source.

There's no comparison between this AUR even and the xz-utils backdoor problem that was resolved nearly immediately and hasn't happened again. Meanwhile the AUR keeps getting infected and, like I mentioned, there's been several occurrences of this.

Ubuntu relies on the community to be notified of problematic PPAs, and these are resolved swiftly. I cannot recall the last time there was an incident with a PPA because they are so rare. So, again, there is no comparison to make.

And who reads the PKGBUILD scripts??? Most users don't bother. And that's the problem.

I've been using Linux for 26 years and have even worked for a distro myself. Arch is a great Linux distro if you want to build a lean distro with bleeding edge shit. But, it's vulnerable to vulnerabilities due to it being too bleeding edge with little oversight and malware through the AUR. If you want to use this, then by all means, go ahead.

But my gripe is with this, and other communities, where people are pitching Arch or Arch-based distros to nearly everybody as the de-facto go-to, especially if you're into gaming. And I have a problem with that. I also have a problem with its users that will blindingly defend this distro and outright refuse to see the problems, like it's some kind of cult.

This! 👆

You completely missed the point.

Debian or Fedora don't need an AUR because vendors provide the packages themselves. And you know where they're coming from. You have the largest collection of software packages available, plus the 3rd party official packages available to download.

As for the PPAs, they're often provided by the software distributor themselves. Like Proton, or Wine. Most of the time you know who's providing the PPA. Ubuntu also keeps a close watch over these and will act if a malicious PPA is found. It won't take a lot of time before the PPA is taken down to prevent the spread. So it's relatively safer than a free for all repo where everybody is contributing and unmaintained packages get taken over. So, no. PPAs are not more dangerous than AUR.___

Hahahahaha they also come in Debian .deb and Fedora .rpm packages. That's why I never got this problem with my hardware on Ubuntu or Debian.

And no it's not the same as PPAs.

No, it just happened to be my instance.

As a side note, for some reason, I can't see any comments inside any post on this community. That's why I have to reply though my lemmy.ca alternate account.

In control of installing malware?

I get what you mean, but people are stupid. There needs to be guardrails to prevent these things from happening. That's why the AUR is a bad idea and it should be shut down.

You want your software to be available for a distro? Go through the proper channels. Submit it for review and get it approved. If you stop maintaining it, they remove it. Plain and simple.

That's why you don't have this problem with other distros. Arch made it too easy to download and install unverified, untested, potentially malicious software through the AUR and now every idiot that thinks they know what they're doing are infecting their systems.