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Well, I knew something would break eventually, but didn't expect it this quick.

2 rounds of standard velocity, then a high velocity. High velocity broke the tab off of the barrel.

I fired another standard velocity after the tab broke and it had no problems.

No case rupture or bulge out of any of the 4 rounds fired. All extracted fine.

I have a PLA+ barrel printed as a replacement, so I'll put it together and see if any of the other PETG parts break. I thought the hammer would be the first to break, but I was wrong, maybe it will be the next.

The plus side is that the trigger pull is very nice with this one right off of the printer. This has the striker fired parts. Better than any of the others I've made using same setup.

I felt it important to share my failure. But I do not feel like this thing was going to blow up like everyone on reddit expected. Many people act like I should register this thing as a DD, as if it were made of high explosive.

So far with this exact platform, I've tested esun matte PLA, likesilk PLA-F, Tinmory PETG-GF, and this esun PETG. This is the 1st failure I've gotten from the weird materials. The others have at least a couple hundred rounds through them and are still going strong.

I've done them different ways. Threading works fine, but eventually will wear out the plastic threaded part.

I usually run them until they get loose, then JB weld them in.

Depth isn't very critical. I usually run mine a little deep. I've tried quite a few different iterations of the printed portion of the firing pin, and not too much different performance from making changes.

I haven't broke/wore out any of the JB welded firing pins, one has over 1000 rounds easily.

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  • It's something that has been worked on, but I have kinda lost interest in it. No one wants to help beta test it. I've gotten it to cycle a decker. Someone apparently got a modified fgc9 to cycle 9mm deep, but I haven't seen it. Another guy in BLC was working on some other modified 9mm cartridge in the decker platform as well

    As for energy, it was closer to 22lr. And 32 auto has about the same energy as 380, so yeah, it's not that powerful.

    So far all of my ammo projects are for manual actions. It just works better, and these kinds of guns are still really neat.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 7 months ago

    People get real wild with the filament stuff for sure. I have one of these same builds in matte PLA, and PLA-F. My Modelo has silk PLA and normal PLA parts on it that are all original 2000 rounds later.

    I don't recommend people use these weird materials, but I like to put it out there for everyone just as another data point.

    My barrel nut for my 21.5" m4gery is this same PETG-GF and it's been working great. I broke my PLA+ barrel nut.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    I think hoffman recommended PET-GF, not PETG-GF.

    But as far as differences, it prints just like PETG. I did have to run the nozzle at like 260C. It does require drying. It's abrasive, I ate 1mm off the face of a brass nozzle in about 300 grams of material. Steel nozzle has been gone for the remainder of the roll. It needs to be dried, but overnight @ 70C was plenty to get it dry and was good for a couple days afterwards. Nothing like drying nylon.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 7 months ago

    I have done a couple other parts, such as hd22 barrel nuts, Glock mags, 10/22 mags, etc. I did some destructive testing with Glock mags and they held up really well.

    I don't do much with parts kits builds, and these little suckers are easy and cheap enough for me to build just as a test. I know what to expect out of them with other materials such as abs, PLA, and pla+. The breech, sear, and hammer are typical failure points for this particular build and get different types of stress.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 7 months ago

    It does have rifling, and it doesn't keyhole.

    And you are correct about accuracy in relation with the sight placement. As is, these will get you a 3" group at 20 feet on a good day, which is more than reasonable. I have an 8" pistol that I've hit steel @100 meters with a scope a few times, and the scope is mounted on the barrel.

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    Someone recently turned me on to a new weird PETG-GF that is supposed to be very impact resistant and very affordable. I'm always interested in new materials, especially those that are cheap and easy to print in.

    I use this "UFA compliant compact striker fired artillery boi" platform for material tests. If it's built well in PLA+, they will take a solid diet of high velocity 22lr with a standard printed breech.

    This has been the best one of these I have built so far. I have ran shorts, standard velocity, high velocity, stingers, and interceptors. Extracts flawlessly. No signs of wear at all.

    I'll take it out and run the hell out of it within the next couple of weeks.

    [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Just have too many projects going on, and I really like my Modelo. Nothing else.

    What you are asking for with the 9mm chamber is already finished and released. It's called "the 9mm deep". It's available on BLC odyssey. There is someone who got it to cycle in a modified FGC9, but I would totally wait for the 9mm decker to come out, as it works better with printed ammo than any of the FGC variants. The biggest change to be made is bolt weight.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    We do the ammo development at BLC in the BLC element space. We are always happy to have more testers, and the process to become a tester is pretty painless.

    I have pushed the 380 printed ammo project aside for the time being, lately I have been working on 38 special printed ammo and more 43R loads, some of which I will be releasing later today.

    There are a ton of people interested in the printed ammo, but hardly anyone willing to help with testing.

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