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How to refer to a message in different server? (xn--e1aghfa.xn--e1aqbccjfc.xn--p1acf)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
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I saw that messages have different identifiers on different servers. What should I write in my text to make the hyperlink to work on all servers?

https://xn--e1aghfa.xn--e1aqbccjfc.xn--p1acf/post/15
https://lemmy.ml/post/49064481

15 ≠ 49064481

The site https://lemmy.ml/ is unreachable from my computer because of government politics. I want to refer to the copy of message, which is downloaded into my instance. But it have a new ID in my DB.

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[–] 2 points 4 months ago

It’s 4:02 utc, do you know what your smart fridge is up to?

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    [–] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I believe that the original id is stored somewhere as well since there is i fediverse icon that takes one to the original. You can probably use that id when searching your db.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    I expected some special syntax like post:id!community@domain

    Or ap_id?post/15@xn--e1aghfa.xn--e1aqbccjfc.xn--p1acf

    Here ap_id is the name of part of URI, which maps to
    https://lemmy.ml/post/ap_id
    and performs all the magic, which lemmyverse.link does

    Or https://lemmy.ml/post/49064481?15@xn--e1aghfa.xn--e1aqbccjfc.xn--p1acf
    if developers will integrate it into lemmy itself

    ?=post/15@xn--e1aghfa.xn--e1aqbccjfc.xn--p1acf - any ap_id

    ?!community@xn--e1aghfa.xn--e1aqbccjfc.xn--p1acf - any community
    ?usernick@xn--e1aghfa.xn--e1aqbccjfc.xn--p1acf - any user
    but the last two options are not necessary

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    in another software it's possible to use:
    p?ap_id@server
    c?conf@server
    u?user@server
    where this local links will be added to URI ending with trailing /

    i.e. https://engine.tld/application/objtype/NNNNNID/
    will be completed with
    https://localserver.tld/applicationname/objtype/NNNNNID/p?ap_id@remoteserver.tld
    https://localserver.tld/applicationname/objtype/NNNNNID/c?conf@remoteserver.tld
    https://localserver.tld/applicationname/objtype/NNNNNID/u?user@remoteserver.tld

    This way the local links will allow to setup redirects to any type of objects.
    (and without the special syntax and special parsing)

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago 
    https://localserver.tld/applicationname/objtype/NNNNNID/=ap_id@remoteserver.tld
https://localserver.tld/applicationname/objtype/NNNNNID/!conf@remoteserver.tld
https://localserver.tld/applicationname/objtype/NNNNNID/user@remoteserver.tld

    and distinguish them with regular expressions at reverse proxy...

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    I created this topic on my own instance. It knows original ID, but doesn't know ID-s in all other servers in federation.

    I want to write a link in such a way, that lemmy substitute it with the reference to the local copy of message on lemmy.ml server.

    But now lemmy just shows an original link to my server.

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    • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Use https://lemmyverse.link/

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    it give the resulting link as https://lemmyverse.link/xn--e1aghfa.xn--e1aqbccjfc.xn--p1acf/post/15 so the lemmyverse.link website is the single point of failure. It goes against the idea of federation.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    It's just a convenience service. Your original url is right there in the path if it were to go down, and it's open source if you want to run your own.

    There's no other way currently to do it

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    «Your original url is right there in the path if it were to go down» But how it's supposed to help one, to see the original URL? It will help only if the content is archived in some way. If remote lemmy server will go down. Then content will became unavailable, even If I install a local copy of that redirecting engine.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (4 children)

    The point is that it redirects you to the post on your personal interest.

    You can also paste that into the search of any lemmy instance to find it, if they mirrored it

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    You can also paste that into the search of any lemmy instance to find it, if they mirrored it

    Yes, this works. But I don't understand how. The question is - will it work, if remote instance went down?

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    • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    My man is just checking to see if you’re rfc952 complaint.

    Only hostname I ever seen with a glottal stop

    You know ai out here registering domains bc it tried to put an em dash

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I enter xn--e1aghfa.xn--e1aqbccjfc.xn--p1acf into the field of https://lemmyverse.link/ when it asks my home. But the site doesn't accept that perfectly RFC952 compliant name

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago

    An additional problem - the site https://lemmyverse.link/ is available only partially (requires VPN to work).

    So my new idea is to deploy
    https://github.com/RikudouSage/lemmyverse.link
    into my website locally, and give 2 links - the relative (via local redirector) and the direct one (as a fallback).

    the relative link on forein server will became broken, until they also install such redirector into the same path.

    After that the link will always lead to local server and redirect to preferred server of user.

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    • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago

    Проверяем:
    https://лемми.опенсорс.рус/post/15

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    [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Business cards with your website on em the looooong way

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