cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/61326066

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There are actually a couple runs of relatively modern grounded, albeit still old and crappy, grounded wire in my basement, including one powering my shed that ran right next to this outlet, and its shitty old ungrounded black cloth cable. I hijacked that and repurposed it for this outlet.

So, no shed power currently, but this first job gave me the confidence and motivation to tackle the rest of the house now.

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[–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I wonder - does a usb c fit into the live side of the plug?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yes. This socket comes with 2 USB-Cs and one USB-A

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think they're referring to the more intrusive thought of putting the USB-C plug into the phase side of the 120V socket.

    Hopefully if it does fit in height/width, it doesn't have the length to reach anything metal.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Was the metal box grounded through conduit or did you run a separate ground back to the panel or separate grounded circuit?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Good job! Howd you ground it?

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    There are actually a couple runs of relatively modern grounded, albeit still old and crappy, grounded wire in my basement, including one powering my shed that ran right next to this outlet, and its shitty old ungrounded black cloth cable. I hijacked that and repurposed it for this outlet.

    So, no shed power, but this first job gave me the confidence and motivation to tackle the rest of the house now.

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  • Shitty because it's old and EOL, but totally fit for purpose when it was new. In the days when wiring insulation was made of cloth nobody really worried about how long a house was going to last. Most men were dead by age 65 from heart attacks or lung cancer, and similar for women. Different times, different technology.

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  • use a ground screw or a grounding clip from the receptacle to the body of the metal box.

    but likely a moot point because the receptacle itself has no grounding lug.

    Just handle the old wire carefully. Baby it. Better still, replace it with something new. New stuff should last you 100 years. The old stuff, well, you can see how well that ages. Synthetic rubber & plastic technology was in a very primitive state before the 1970's. That's what the wires are insulated with- a form of synthetic rubber or an insulating type of plastic. Modern insulation (mid 70's and later) are all forms of durable plastic that should last a long long time.

    exception: electric cords and extension cords pre-1990's.. still a lot of older insulation materials that were prone to degradation with age/sunlight/ozone/heat but it wasn't getting put into a wall in a house that could catch fire so no biggie.. Any issue or defect would become apparent very quickly to anyone nearby.

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  • A quick mnemonic device for wiring receptacles:

    black guys like gold, white guys like silver..

    the black wire goes on the gold lug, the white wire on the silver lug. Green is ground if you've got one. another common mistake- the larger of the 2 slots is the neutral and on any receptacle/plug/whatever the SMALLEST hole or prong or blade is always the one that carries power (black wire).

    the reasoning is that you always want to grant the largest surface area/conductor to the white and green wires which take electricity to ground and away from you so that YOU don't become the ground yourself.. when that happens it's what we all think of as "getting shocked".

    People who don't know better very commonly miswire receptacles and cords, falsely thinking that the biggest blade/prong/hole must carry the power because.. power big, ground little.. </caveman voice> when actually the reverse is true for some rather abstract safety reasons.

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    [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    And presumably you're still alive, hence this post! Kudos!

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    My life has NOTHING to do with electricity and electronics, but one day, I hope it'll have EVERYTHING to do with it. This is so cool!

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Is that metal box connected through to your electrical panel via metal conduit? If so, the box itself might be grounded, so you wouldn't need to actually steal the power from your shed. Of course you'd want to test any outlet with the tester you have, but you'd just wire the grounded outlet like normal but w/no ground cable, and make sure the upper/lower metal tabs are screwed tight against the box.

    Also, congrats, that's a great achievement!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Is it legal to DIY that if you're not a certified electrician?

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