MAS-56 Moment 20th Century History (media.piefed.social)
 

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[–] [S] 30 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Notes From Original OP:

I got to shoot one of these earlier this month. One of the first things I noticed was how ergonomically natural it felt to reload — the low capacity makes the magazine short, so you instinctively cup it from the bottom, which brings your hands right over the mag release. Because they insert straight in and out rather than rocking forward, you’re unlikely to fumble them. The clothes hanger-style pins on the mag also make it easy to clip extra mags to your pockets or belts.

…and yet, this also seems like one of the dumbest and most unnecessary design choices. Now magazines are will be much more complex to manufacture, there’s zero chance of compatibility with other rifles (even of the same caliber, as many MAS-49s were converted to 7.62 NATO), and they’re harder to store in regular pouches.

Indeed, no one will question the Frenchness of the engineers behind this.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The French copy no one, and no one copies the French.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago*

    On behalf of Ian from Forgotten weapons (peace be upon him) I take issue with this!

    French artillery recoil management? It was ahead of its time by decades and WWI artillery was more accurate and deadly coming from the French, who didn't have to choose between being accurate or fast since their weapon stayed put after each shot, whereas other pieces used their inertia and rolling to manage recoil.

    The minié ball?

    Historically the French were like a nation sized Keltech where they threw shit at a wall and the world looked on with concerned interest (and often copied the best ideas that stuck to the wall the hardest)

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    [–] 11 points 5 months ago*

    If anyone else was curious what the mag release mechanism looks like

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 5 months ago

    Notes From Original OP:

    I got to shoot one of these earlier this month. One of the first things I noticed was how ergonomically natural it felt to reload — the low capacity makes the magazine short, so you instinctively cup it from the bottom, which brings your hands right over the mag release. Because they insert straight in and out rather than rocking forward, you’re unlikely to fumble them. The clothes hanger-style pins on the mag also make it easy to clip extra mags to your pockets or belts.

    …and yet, this also seems like one of the dumbest and most unnecessary design choices. Now magazines are will be much more complex to manufacture, there’s zero chance of compatibility with other rifles (even of the same caliber, as many MAS-49s were converted to 7.62 NATO), and they’re harder to store in regular pouches.

    Indeed, no one will question the Frenchness of the engineers behind this.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    The main issue i see is how sturdy is that external clothespin? I feel like the first time i dive for cover those things are going to get bent to all hell and i won’t be able to seat my magazine anymore.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Schmidt-Rubin K-31 moment

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    @PugJesus this is what happens when you let the french engineer anythingalso, as a rule, never submit to french trials unless you're d'assaultbecause they have an ironclad track record of taking all the ideas and trade secrets, dismissing the designers without even a 'merci', and then building their own frankenmonsterthen they sit on it until the germans steal it from themand then the germans overcomplicate it

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