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[–] 13 points 6 months ago

Don’t use Spotify

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    My association: Anti corruption batch from Trump.

    I mean from a marketing standpoint it makes sense to profit from the AI fatigue but I don't have any illusion that Spotify acts in good faith.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I trust nothing a company that supports fascist paramilitary invaders would do.

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    [–] 114 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Step 1) create an unnecessary problem

    Step 2) solve said problem

    Step 3) profit???

    Go fuck yourselves Spotify

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  • [–] 44 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Spotify? the company that ran ICE ads?

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    What's the best alternative? It's been a while since I used any of them. I checked Tidal recently and it looked like they have an AI slop problem too.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    I haven't had it be an issue with Tidal. Tidal doesn't have a strong autoplay algorithm so it tends to nudge users toward more custom curated Playlists. It has a buggy app, make it difficult to block songs or artists, and no duplicate filter which is frustrating, but I don't agree that AI slop is a very big issue currently. They seem proactive in fighting it and have always been one of the most artist friendly services.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Download your own music and set up navidrome. For music discovery, go to shows and find out about bands from the scene.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I use Qobuz now, and they are great, with human-curated playlists and suggestions. So far, I love it.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    Hmm. Sadly not available in my country yet (and while I'm sure I could pull some shenanigans to subscribe with a foreign address, I'm going to assume that also means none of our local music labels will be covered, so that's a non starter.)

    I'll keep an eye on it. But in the meantime, I also gather it doesn't do podcasts - anyone have any recommendations on where I could be migrating podcasts, from Spotify? Non-US companies only (which for avoidance of doubt, absolutely definitely excludes Apple).

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    I listened to podcasts on Antennapod for years. It's open source and free, but there are many other podcast platforms. Used Pocket Cast before too, very good, licensed under MPL 2.0. Those services don't have Spotify exclusive, but have all others.

    Edit: corrected mistake about Pocket Cast.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Thanks! (And I should say, it was a genuine question :-)). I'll take a look at them; I don't listen to any Spotify exclusives (yay!), but there are one or two that I subscribe to their supporter schemes and at the moment I do that through Spotify. I guess that's my next task, work out if there's a way to subscribe directly and use something like Antennapod.

    New workers'-day-weekend project dropped...

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Picked up a dedicated audio device recently (with another few on the way!), and it feels nice to curate my own offline, add-free, algorithm-free listening experience. Having music myself his been half the fun of this, I won't be using any streaming app going forward.

    It is also super adorable:

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    Oh man, wait until you're camping craigslist ads for used DAPs (Digital audio player, fancy speak for music player)... I got my DX180 for cheap there, then picked up some grados. Decent headphones and a good audio chip is some magic shit.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    How do you discover new artists? That is the main thing keeping me from doing this.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Listen to the radio, read music news or listen to podcasts if you prefer, go to local music venues

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    KEXP, Audiotree, Tiny Desk and more

    Plus the bands that open for the bands I like. Even if I don't go to the concert, I look up who's opening it.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Thanks. I looked at a few of these. I think I have seen tiny desk before a long time ago. And I already found a new thing I like :)

    I've never really thought about looking up the openers for concerts that I don't go to. Great idea.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Wtf?? They made tons of the AI slop on their themselves!

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago

    So what happens if the artist is dead?

    Freddie Mercury would find it difficult to maintain an active social nedia presence to prove he's human, being rather indisposed at the present.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    And in dark mmo world, soon there will be service to buy "Verified by Spotify" badge or account.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Spotify is such a shit company. I used to get paid (peanuts) on my artist account but they raised the threshold for getting payouts so now I get nothing.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    Wonder if this will work on the innumerable obvious covers of popular songs by no-name bands which get listed as being from the original artists. Probably not, which is why I stopped using Spotify even before so many of their other shitty moves.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Too little too late

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    I don't even begin to trust Spotify to tell me which sponsored Spotify content is only algorithmically served to me by Spotify AI, not created with it.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Interested in seeing how this will be gamed

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    And with Artist Profile Protection (currently in beta), artists now have greater control over what appears on their profile, which helps to ensure the music you see is coming from them.

    From the Artist Profile Protection link:

    Music has been landing on the wrong artist pages across streaming services, and the rise of easy-to-produce AI tracks has made the problem worse. That’s not the experience we want artists to have on Spotify, and that’s why we’ve made protecting artist identity a top priority for 2026. Today, we’re announcing a first-of-its-kind solution to a problem that’s affected streaming for years.

    How the hell is that something that is only in beta in 2026 and not a standard feature? It's currently optional, but they better automatically opt in verified "No AI" artists if the label is going to be worth anything. There should not be AI-generated songs from randos getting attached to a "No AI" artist.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    I don't get the appeal of Spotify. Pay monthly for music? That's crazy.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    You get a much larger selection than by buying individual records, though.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

    It is amazing how everytime I check they dont have what I want. Yet you are correct, there is lot of options there.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I am genuinely curious what you were looking for that they didn't have. I feel like my tastes are so benign because I have never had that issue.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I only check once in a while (even though I could use it freely), but first off I listen to a lot of live music so there is that, most is not there or freely traded anyway.

    But I can think of a good example recently: I wanted to hear Burning Spear's Mistress Music, with the track Fly me to the moon in particular. It is not there.

    Not a huge artist, but also not unknown either: https://www.discogs.com/master/108163-Burning-Spear-Mistress-Music

    It is in my music server now (somewhere I have the CD, but who knows where).

    It seems to happen to me more often than not.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    You really don’t get the appeal of paying for a service that provides a need? Really?

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    Do you think people have a need for music that is streamed but not saved from a large collection?

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Need? No. But there are tons of streaming music out there and it isn't gonna cost you a dime.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Oh so you are saying the service exists in another form and is able to fill a need people have? So therefore Spotify is just one solution to a problem many people have.

    You are genuinely being disingenuous if you don’t see how some people could want to use Spotify over something like Soulseek or even something like YouTube Music.

    I don’t even like Spotify, but I can see why some people might.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Yet another platform with meaningless badges

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'll never understand Spotify. If it's such a pain in the ass why do people use it? Napster was big when I was in high school so if I find a song I like, I go download it. Sometimes it's piracy. Sometimes it's a legitimate purchase. Whichever is easiest.

    Done. The end. It's mine forever.

    As far as discoverability goes it helps that there have been no new music releases in the past couple of decades that I care about.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    In the same breath that Spotify uses to introduce Ai stuff they also introduce a prompt based Ai to create playlists. I wish there were more platforms with feature parity and that it were easier to transfer preferences and genre tastes to other platforms.

    I've tried deezer briefly but it is just missing so many things that I like that Spotify has.

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    [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Eh fuck Spotify, giving rogan an exclusive show was too far for me

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Verified by Spotify is a great step for building trust around artists, and I’ve found PissedConsumer useful for checking spotify phone number details like Free and Premium plans, offline listening, playlists, account and subscription options, so it’s worth using when you need clearer info.

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