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To be absolutely crystal clear: Jessie does not oppose anti-fascist work literally at all. Quite the opposite! But their point is that only anti-fascism is not enough, in particular that leftist media needs to imagine alternative visions of a better world.
it's way too long. like how do u think I'm supposed to find time to watch all this?
To be absolutely crystal clear: Jessie does not oppose anti-fascist work literally at all. Quite the opposite! But their point is that only anti-fascism is not enough, in particular that leftist media needs to imagine alternative visions of a better world.
Quote from Margaret Killjoy in the video:
There are two sides to this struggle: rapid response and mutual aid. Rapid response networks organize to identify and track ICE vehicles and agents and to disrupt abductions in process. Mutual aid networks organize to get affected people food, medical care, rides, vet visits, company... whatever they need. These are two seperate webs of networks. The mutual aid side is more secretive in its organizing, of course, because it is taking care of the people who cannot leave their homes without being kidnapped... Partly because there's no central organization, it's hard to get a sense of the scale of these networks, especially the mutual aid networks. There are tens of thousands of people, at least, being cared for by these networks... When I ask people where all of this came from, the answer was never some specific organization or network or coalition. Organizations, networks, and coalitions are part of this, absolutely. But the core of the resistance is just neighborliness... I can't emphasize the decentralization of theese networks enough... Decentralizaed networks are harder to inflitrate and harder to destroy. This movement is not leaderless, but leaderful, and there are no few specific people who could be arrested to stop the movement... Noen of this works top-down.
In norwegian we have a word for non-authoritarian leaders, which is called "los". It comes from somebody who is helping with navigation of ships. I guess it could be translated to guider. You don't have to listen to the guider, but if they are reckognized as capable, you trust them.
As everybody else I haven't watched the 2.5h video but my thought was: Just llike Fight Club was supposed to criticise toxic masculinity but dudebros where too full of testosterone to understand that and made it their fav movie maybe Andor is the opposite of that? That "nonpolitical" (๐คข) dude accidentally made a leftwing series?
maybe Andor is the opposite of that?
Actually, a big part of their critique is how Andor is not a "leftist" show, and that "leftist" shows coming out of Hollywood aren't really a thing. In particular: for the most part, Andor does not put forth an alternative vision for the future after the revolution.
Why the dislikes ? I was confused at first, but then read the description and it seemed to make sense to me. I have no time to watch the whole video, is there something i missed about it or the videomaker ?
Havent watched the video so take with a grain of salt, but my guess is liberals seething that their totally effective and rebellious peaceful means of "resistance" are once again being called out for what they are. Ineffective, neutered, and whitewashed acts of whining that basically amount to spicy parades.
I want to also emphasize I am not against peaceful protest, but I do have a problem with people delusionally thinking its the end all be all and that peaceful protests have to be civil. I feel like the only merit peaceful protests really have, particularly the undisruptive kind, is to get people active. Its a gateway and foot in the door to get people onto the streets. But after that, there needs to be some kind of escalation because the powerful dont listen until it starts being disruptive.
Nah I think some comrades thought that based on the title, Jessie is literally saying that anti-fascist activism is for fools. Which they are explicitly not saying lol, like they literally say that we need to fight fascists around the midpoint, but I suspect they picked that title to rope in liberals who do think that. This is about "leftist" media not actually telling stories about alternative ways of living. E.g., Star Wars has a relatively sympathetic portrayal of revolutionaries, but in the Disney movies, the rebels basically just fight for, and ultimately go back to l, the same liberal democracy that allowed fascism to develop, with predictable results in the Disney trilogy.
I'm guessing people think that Jessie is arguing against active anti-fascist actions (which they're wildly not).
To be absolutely crystal clear: Jessie does not oppose anti-fascism literally at all. Quite the opposite! But their point is that anti-fascism is not enough.
To be absolutely crystal clear: Jessie does not oppose anti-fascist work literally at all. Quite the opposite! But their point is that only anti-fascism is not enough, in particular that leftist media needs to imagine alternative visions of a better world.
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