They’re basically minimum-viable products that by design can be used to violate the law in California when the Act goes into effect on Jan. 1, 2027.

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[–] 5 points 7 months ago

For that price, I'll buy a tier 2 just to support the project

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago*

    I'm curious what the purpose is here, since I don't see it explained on the linked page. Are they essentially trying to bait the state into issuing fines so they can challenge these laws in court? Or just demonstrate how dumb the laws are?

    Civil disobedience in this way (buying or owning an "illegal" product) doesn't seem like it would have the same impact as a sit-in against segregation or something like marching on a highway. There's nothing really visible for media to show off, and no real inconvenience to anyone. The state could just ignore these entirely, right?

    Edit: answered my own question by reading the main Ageless Linux page. Seems like the point is to bait the state AG into fining them, or if not, explain why they aren't enforcing the law? Dunno if this will do anything but good luck to the project anyway! They certainly have the right spirit.

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    It's you who is the idiot then, to use your wording

    Exceptions and exemptions are easily changed and amended. The principal laws themselves are the issue not the details of their implementation and V0 exceptions.

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    [–] 143 points 7 months ago (23 children)

    By the way, the current age verification madness is a coordinated lobbying campaign by Meta

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago (17 children)

    To avoid any responsibility for them not moderating.

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  • [+] -12 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    that sounds like maga simp talk

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    The OS level age verification is being pushed by Meta to avoid having to take responsibility for moderation.

    Where have you been?

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    that's just a distraction maga

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Yes, you’re a maga distraction lol glad we agree

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    👉👈 so are we supposed to kiss now or

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Have the day you voted for, trumpet

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago* (6 children)

    you are reading the totally wrong thing into this, i'm just making fun of you dude.

    not everyone who disagrees with you on every point is maga. try remembering the art of conversation

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    nooooooooo it's fun

    edit: can someone get this gif to say MECHA KAMALA for me that would be so funny

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately, this comment thread is on top of the post, so newcomers might assume you're doing it unironically before getting to the rest of the comments.

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    [–] 22 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    Wait are they planing to fine non-age verification compliant devices?

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  • [+] -13 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    Well yeah. And since no one is ever going to provide their real age, they will probably set jail time and photo ID upload requirements.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    I mean if we're making shit up, why not say they'll execute you for non-compliance?

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  • [+] -16 points 7 months ago* (10 children)

    Hey everyone, found the fed simp. Hilarious name “rioting pacifist” telling us everything is gonna be fine, just like history has always proven. lol.

    You should be “strawman fed” for your next username.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Honestly the level of delusion around this is Alex Jones Turning the Frogs gay, there is a shred of truth but that's about it and you're our here popping vines over a PR that does very little.

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  • [+] -14 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Except you’re on the “Alex jones” side here. You just can’t see because you’re a fed simp.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Lmao, you realize it's a state law right?

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    StAtE gOvErNmEnT sImP

    Just a magat by a different name.

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    Just so I got this straight I'm a Fed simping magat, because I think you're being hysterical about a Californian law that doesn't require verification and returns a locally stored unverified age?

    I'm honestly kind of neutral on the law but the hysteria around it as a slippery nipple to completely different laws is ridiculous.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    AB 1043 passed the California Assembly 76–0 and the Senate 38–0. Not a single legislator voted against it.

    1798.503. (a) A person that violates this title shall be subject to an injunction and liable for a civil penalty of not more than two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per affected child for each negligent violation or not more than seven thousand five hundred dollars ($7,500) per affected child for each intentional violation

    This device does not collect, store, or transmit the age of its user. This is intentional.

    Is there any reason to believe they won't want to make an example out of intentional violators?

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    I have serious doubts about any voters, anywhere in the world, repealing any laws like this:

    • Most people like laws that let them avoid responsibility
    • Most people are, or have been, parents at some point
    • Most parents will offload the responsibility onto "the government" instead of admitting to poor parenting

    This kind of act of insubordination, the way it is framed, I'm afraid is likely to meet the opposition of most people.

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  • [–] 35 points 7 months ago (18 children)

    Can someone eli5 the idea? I don't get it, even after reading the page. But now I want one.

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  • [–] 39 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    They're breaking evil age verification laws on purpose as civil disobedience with cheap hardware

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    OK, the disobedience was the part I didn't get. Thank you!

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Insofar as part availability isn't insurmountably impacted this also constitutes functional resistance to all manor of censorship and surveillance. If you can code, test on one of these

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    California is adding a requirement for age verification for operating systems (or something like that) so each one of these violates that law by booting into linux.

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  • [+] -22 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Except it's not age verification and as see n by the systemd fork over this, the people hyperventilating over adding an API are making less secure systems

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    It's not 'hyperventilation' it's obvious fascism

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    ooh! ooh! Can we restart the systemd wars??

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    yes please! We're using OpenRC on Debian right now, it's very nice. Way less annoying than systemd.

    -- Frost

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    I've got a huge soft spot for OpenRC, my first experience with Linux was installing Gentoo on a junker PC i'd patched together from scavenged parts in like 2007. I actually worked from a printed out version of the handbook >.<

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    Brilliant. I'd like to see how the very uninformed legislators deal with this. They will have to publically re-argue first principles

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Brilliant! 💪

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Amazing. Where are the build instructions

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    What in leftist infighting hell is even happening in this comment section?

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    For some people the world is black and white, I think that law is considered bad by everyone, but for some people complaying to state regulation is a crime against humanity itself.

    It is either puppies or genocide, no in-between, so adding two lines of code for json support of an age field in a systemd module warrants you to be publicly shamed, called names and probably harrassed irl.

    The guy probably just wanted to be able to continue using linux at work, and without that crap he will have to go back to windows

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Why can't rest of the world just cancel California.

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