Just think of how profitable it will be to be an Insurance underwriter once all the electrical fires start.
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a live ground pin would be pretty silly
What?! It got one wire right. That's enough, right?
AI like this reminds me of Flowers for Algernon when he starts using punctuation everywhere, knowing but that he's doing it wrong but he does it anyway.
You got to mix them up, she showed? me" how to mix! them (and now; I can! mix up all kinds" of punctuation, in! my writing? There, are lots! of rules? to lern; but Im gettin'g them in my head.
And to think I've been ignoring "earth" all this time.
I dunno. Maybe AI is the new "Darwinism."
If you are stupid enough to use AI for electrical systems (or anything else crucial), the human race doesn't need you.
The problem, much like the problem with relying on evolution to unfuck the anthropocene mass extinction event, is that the response rate of the feedback mechanism is far too slow. By the time an AI-reliant contractor ends up personally experiencing the "find out" result of their particularly stupid brand of "fucking around", they will have potentially caused irreparable damage to the lives of βand potentially caused the deaths ofβ hundreds of otherwise-reasonable people.
Funny that you mention this now.
A few days ago we had to splice a euro plug into a US cable (we needed it urgently and the replacement was going to take too long to arrive). Once we had cut the cables we found out that the color schemes for the wires are different in the US than the EU, so a coworker asked chatgpt which wires he should connect together. Long story short, the fuses got tested that day, and not intentionally. He ended up connecting live to ground.
AI is generally garbage, but I refuse to judge AI output until I see the actual prompt that generated it. Who knows the they actually asked for. The prompt could have been "generate an image showing how to wire a plug so that it will kill the next person that touches it".
It's always good practice to wire line to the ground pin, this ensures equal distribution of electricity to the metal frame of the appliance. This works exceptionally well with metal radiators, washing machines, fridges... the results are quite literally shocking!
Remember to use 2 different screws and a 3rd one that's proprietary to that one plug in your house alone
Here the thing tho... Ai isn't actually meant to replace anyone, it's just an excuse to lay people off and increase the price of the stock
AI is generally garbage, but I refuse to judge AI output until I see the actual prompt that generated it. Who knows the they actually asked for. The prompt could have been "generate an image showing how to wire a plug so that it will kill the next person that touches it".
That is a horrible AI image, so happy Ai images are becoming piss colored
I asked ChatGPT a question about a PC project and it offered to draw out a diagram for me. It's was hilariously badly wrong. Worth trying out yourself if you're on the mood for a chuckle (and warring enough power/water to sustain a village in the process).
I asked Gemini, both "fast" and "pro" model, to recreate the image correctly. I'm no UK electrician but I don't think these are any better...


Stop supporting this bullshit. Stop wasting our resources on stupid bullshit.
Line and earth swopped this isn't fashion style color matching. Greetings from hell the prompter or the programmer to hell. A good example for bad AI results.
This is so stupid.
It's just an AI for assisting with various stuff tradespeople don't necessarily know. It's not designed to do the job of actual tradespeople.
It might be stupid but it's not like it's a safety issue or anything and if it were they are fully unqualified for their trade anyways.
It's a whole lot of nothing, except a waste of money for Mozilla and everyone else involved.
If the AI is dangerously wrong in the things you know, how dangerously wrong is it in the things you don't know? And will you realize it when you see it?
If an actual electrician AI existed (and not this administrative task AI) it might be dangerous for normal people to use it. But if an actual authorized electrician uses an AI to do unsafe work they are a terrible electrician and shouldn't be an electrician in the first place.
Why is everyone assuming tradespeople are terrible at their jobs and apparently unable to spot unsafe instructions about their own profession?
Because I've seen enough farmers and handyman work to know that a LOT of people think they know what they're doing. Or know just enough to be dangerous.
So it's not an AI issue then? It's yours countrys inability to certify electricians and plumbers properly.
Someone that's dangerous without AI is dangerous with AI. Someone that knows how to do their job isn't dangerous with AI.
No, it's overconfidence in abilities.
Overconfidence in what exactly, invoices? Who gives a shit! Stop acting like improper invoices or some other admin shit is in anyway dangerous. This is just fear mongering
Who said anything about invoices? You're not even making a coherent argument anymore.
Did you not read the fucking post?
In an obscure post, a Mozilla MLE announced a ClawBot ripoff specifically targeted at at tradespeople (electricians, plumbers, roofers, handymen) for help with administrative tasks like scheduling, explaining invoices, etc.
It's not an AI designed to do electrical work, plumbing or whatever. It's for admin work like dealing with invoices. This has been my point the this entire time so I don't get what you are referring to? Is your context window full or what π€£
Why is everyone assuming tradespeople are terrible at their jobs and apparently unable to spot unsafe instructions about their own profession?
But you said:
Itβs just an AI for assisting with various stuff tradespeople donβt necessarily know .
If they don't know/realize the AI is wrong why would they double check? That's the problem with these systems.
I mean it's accounting and admin stuff. So it's not dangerous. Worst case scenario is that they loose money or I guess it's theoretically possible that they "accidentally" commit tax fraud or something but that is obviously their own fault and it's not really dangerous.
Look up "deskilling."
Do you seriously think any tradespeople will just forget how to do their job just because of some stupid accounting and admin task AI?
I sure do. And engineers. And doctors.
How will they get worse at the part of their job the actually matters if they got an AI that helps them with invoices?
Oh piss off with this "its just administrative tasks bro, it's just meant to replace secretaries bro." Nobody believes that garbage.
You think "accounting and admin stuff is not dangerous?" That those tasks don't "actually matter?" Please tell the IRS that excuse when it files your taxes wrong, and let me know what they say.
In my experience ai canβt distinguish between a 5-15p and 6-20r, how useful could it be for an actual electrician
Did any of you read the actual post? It's not designed to do electrical or plumbing work or whatever. It's to "help with administrative tasks like scheduling, explaining invoices, etc."
If an AI is used by an electrician and it results in them doing unsafe work. They are a terrible electrician that would do unsafe work without AI and should lose their license yesterday.
You don't need to be an electrician to install a plug in Britain, in fact they sometimes sell appliances without plugs in Britain, so your excuse is irrelevant.
Itβs to βhelp with administrative tasks like scheduling, explaining invoices, etc.β
Heh fuck me dead. Ai famously is terrible at basic arithmetic. It would be suicidal to use it for invoices.
It's the same in Sweden and so what? I doubt this AI will be generally available or at least that the public would like to use an AI designed for invoices and shit to wire a plug.
And in Sweden at least, you are only allowed to wire a plug if you know what you are doing.
Why would it be better at those tasks ?

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