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The DSA has always been imperialist (www.youtube.com)
submitted 8 months ago by to c/usa@lemmy.ml
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[–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

DSA sucks but BE sucks too.

(To be clear: the woman he's responding to is also an asshole. But instead of bullying her for being a Zionist asshole, which would have been turbo-based, he decided to bully her for her transness, which fucking sucks.)

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  • [+] [S] -1 points 7 months ago* (10 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (8 children)

    Thank you for using trans people as a shield for Zionism and imperialism.

    Shut the fuck up and fuck you for suggesting I'm a fucking ZioNazi. Half my fucking post history is fucking "Death to AmeriKKKa and Pi$$rael ". You of all people should know better.

    BE is a transphobic piece of shit and he spews reactionary views about indigenous people. His single issue is anti-Zionism, and he makes anti-Zionists look bad by being a fucking reactionary in other areas.

    And btw, what about trans or indigenous people living under imperial domination? BE clearly doesn't give a fuck about them.

    Like I don't hate him for being too radical or too pure, I hate him for not being radical and pure enough! As a former fucking fan: yes we should always be fucking purity testing! Yes, we should be fucking ruthless! You're just mad that I'm using his own logic against him.

    Like for fuck's sake I don't even want him to be polite, I don't even want him to moderate his rhetoric, hell I actually WANT him to go way the fuck harder at people, I actually WANT him to doxx and harass fascists and people who fucking deserve it like ZioNazis accuse him of doing, I WANT him to be even a fraction of the "crazy" that ZioNazis accuse him of being, I WANT to see him literally light ZioNazis on fire and film it, but I want him to be able to do that without throwing other oppressed groups under the bus and being a fucking reactionary tool. And frankly, ZioNazis are so fucking maladjusted and creepy that it really shouldn't even be very fucking hard to attack them in the infinite other dimensions that these people are fucking monsters.

    It shouldn't be much of an ask for him and people who like him to please not throw your comrades under the bus for a cheap shot, yet you assholes always pop out of the woodwork and wonder why people listen to ZioNazis instead of us.

    insert something about how you got under my skin

    Goddamn right you did, as anyone accused of being a ZioNazi should be. 🖕

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

    I don't care how much you spam emojis when you're attacking the people pushing the enveloppe on anti imperialism and anti Zionism. You're not posting anything relevant to the post.

    If you applied the standards you apply to a single tweet BE made to the heinous things every other internet personality has supported at one point, you would have not a single person to support. You probably think a tweet about trans people is worse than TheDeprogram glazing mass murderer Graham Platner.

    Do you know what Norman Finkelstein wrote about lefties in campusses? Time to throw him onder the bus too!

    You are not helping the cause. You're simply diluting it with culture wars. When Ziohran closes an Israeli arms Factory in New York you don't see me spamming every instance he let Palestine down in the post and flaming people who don't think his post is post worthy.

    The only reason people are so fixated on that single BE tweet is because BE called out their favoriete internet personality at one point and now they have a dead horse to keep slapping him with.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (6 children)

    I don't care how much you spam emojis when you're attacking the people pushing the enveloppe on anti imperialism and anti Zionism.

    "Pushing the envelope on anti imperialism and anti Zionism" my asshole. BE is such fucking weak sauce these days.

    You probably think a tweet about trans people is worse than TheDeprogram glazing mass murderer Graham Platner.

    Transphobic tweets are bad. TheDeprogram glazing Platner is also bad. I don't know why both things can't be true. Also yuck, fuck the Deprogram for that, and you're not gonna find me glazing Platner or anyone connected to him.

    When Ziohran closes an Israeli arms Factory in New York you don't see me spamming every instance he let Palestine down in the post and flaming people who don't think his post is post worthy.

    Please actually do that! You absolutely SHOULD be pushing back on Ziohran whenever he does the bare fucking minimum. Be ruthless! Be vicious! Follow BE's previous example!

    And I actually didn't flame you in the first response. I was trying to be firm but polite. It's the second comment where I flamed you. And I absolutely don't know why you're accusing me of spamming instances or whatever because I only responded to this exact post.

    The only reason people are so fixated on that single BE tweet is because BE called out their favoriete internet personality at one point and now they have a dead horse to keep slapping him with.

    Again, former fan. I noticed a pattern of bad behavior while watching his videos. It's not just a single tweet. And the Greenland shit was this year!

    You are not helping the cause. You're simply diluting it with culture wars.

    Fuck right off with that shit. The """culture wars""" and the fight against Zionism are inextricably linked!

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Cool can you go ahead and condemn Hamas now because they aren't LGBT friendly enough?

    I edited in a small part about Norman Finkelstein in my previous comment do him to.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    Look, I know that there are people out there using pinkwashing as a way to silence anti-Zionist voices.

    I'm not one of them.

    I have very clearly articulated that my beef is with the man and not what he said here. In fact, I very clearly articulated that his take is correct here. And I never said to take down the post. You are making yourself look bad. Please save this energy for ZioNazis.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    You are whether you realize it or not. You're attacking BE who's consistently pro LGBT for a single edgy tweet he made a year ago as if he's an anti LGBT crusader dedicating his life to attacking trans people

    Finklestein literally wrote a book attacking "woke culture" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27ll_Burn_That_Bridge_When_I_Get_to_It . Finklestein has made plenty of mistakes.

    Please save this energy for ZioNazis.

    Likewise. Once again apply your own standard to bad things every other content creator has said and there's literally nobody left.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    You're attacking BE who's consistently pro LGBT for a single edgy tweet he made a year ago as if he's an anti LGBT crusader dedicating his life to attacking trans people

    Nah, he's done it several times. I'm not providing a full dossier of receipts because I have shit to do, but again this comes from a pattern of observed behavior. Again, former fan. Like my point is literally that he's not consistently pro-LGBT. Anti-trans crusader? Absolutely not, but trans rights clearly aren't a factor in his worldview.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 7 months ago

    BE is pro LGBT. He frequently mentions it including in his video about Norman Finkelstein, where he calls out Norman for his book. The reason for his attack was because a lot of trans people were using their identity to pinkwash the genocide and attacking the Palestinian resistance on it. BE then made an edgy tweet generalizing the entire white trans community for it but it's not something that happens every single day nor is there a whole dossier about it.

    If you want to call him out when he does it that's fine but this video is about the DSA being Zionist imperialists and you're doing nothing but detracting from its content with ad-hominems. There is nobody else calling out the DSA on being literal genocidaires.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Do you know what Norman Finkelstein wrote about lefties in campusses? Time to throw him onder the bus too!

    Yeah which is why I don't look to him for opinions about "culture war" issues. (Actually, the real reason I'm hinky on Finkelstein is that he doesn't support BDS. He did do transphobia a long time ago, but I believe he apologized for his previous position. I don't really care if he doesn't like "woke" or whatever; he's basically yelling at a strawman.) Difference between him and BE is Finkelstein has actually done original work. But yes actually, we should be looking for better anti-Zionist voices than Finkelstein.

    And btw, I never even said to take down the post. I added a comment saying that BE is a shitty person, implying that you should take his opinion with a grain of salt. Same with Finkelstein. It's completely and utterly acceptable and reasonable to add a footnote when shitty people say serviceable things.

    Cool can you go ahead and condemn Hamas now because they aren't LGBT friendly enough?

    Hell no I won't. I condemn LGBT-phobia done by Hamas, but you know damn well that Hamas's supposed LGBT-phobia is exaggerated for propaganda. Good job doing legwork for Zionists to own me in an argument, I'm feeling so fucking owned right now. Of course Hamas should be more LGBT friendly, which I feel is applicable to any and all organizations, even the ones I tolerate (I don't really like anyone 100%, including myself), even LGBT-friendly organizations. I commend Hamas for their brave resistance against the Zionist entity.

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    [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Lol this video is trash and has no basis in reality. As soon as this douche calls the dsa Zionist I knew it was all bullshit.

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