It just occurred to me that younger developers may not see the whole joke here…
For those unaware, a magnet would corrupt/destroy the contents on the floppy disk.
It just occurred to me that younger developers may not see the whole joke here…
For those unaware, a magnet would corrupt/destroy the contents on the floppy disk.
Is this a magnet you can buy? That would be a cool little gift
"System disk erase, Restore do not"
I feel old now. I can almost hear the noise of the drive trying to chew on this one.
Anyway, have some on-theme music video: BAD SECTOR by unfa (youtube.com)
Today, I noticed that my glasses case sticks to my work laptop like a magnet.
I played around with it for a few seconds, then the thought struck me, that it might be my glasses case that's magnetic, and I might be fucking up the electronics or the HDD or something by holding it close to my laptop. Pulled away real quick then. 😅
I did try with my keys later, and well, turns out that it's my work laptop that's magnetic, so I guess, I wasn't fucking anything up after all...
That's probably integrated speakers. Those can have quite powerful magnets. If it has old spinny hard drives, those have magnets, too. Sometimes the lid also has a magnet if there is a hall effect sensor for detecting if it's closed.
Usually it's hard to find a magnet that'd be strong enough to make electronics inside a laptop malfunction without breaking the case open. Your regular fridge magnets are too weak for that kind of application, so are the ones usually found in glasses cases. And if you happen to be an owner of a chonky magnet, you probably already know the thing is dangerous.
Some laptops use magnets to help the lid snap closed. I took the back off an old Lenovo and could see the magnets clipped inside.
Or magnets for hall effect sensors to tell when the lid is closed.
I'd give it a 50 chance of still working. Those old ferrite magnets had relatively-weak spread-out fields. It obv would have affected the whole platter, but the drives/software were pretty good at dealing with weak signals. We had disks, we had magnets and some of us were youngish and bored. you had to be a little persistent to even fuck the disk up a little.
Now, you place a running AC box fan's motor right up to the drive, i'll corrupt the f out of the disk, i did that before.
Do I miss the read/write speed? No. Do I miss the capacity? No.
...But I sure DO miss storage media that makes a satisfying "Kachunk" when loaded, and could be forcefully ejected like a spent artillery casing.
I've seen a few projects that stuff a bunch of flash memory into a floppy for crazy storage capacity, which is pretty cool. Maintains that nostalgia and commands much more respect than one of those ridiculously tiny little USBs that's easy to lose! :p
…But I sure DO miss storage media that makes a satisfying “Kachunk” when loaded, and could be forcefully ejected like a spent artillery casing.
Older computers just have a nice mechanical ambiance that newer machines don't replicate quite as well.
I don't miss having the time to go make a cup of tea whilst waiting for the computer to turn on, or having the monitor scream the entire time it's on, but I do miss hearing the hard drive spin-up, and all the POST beeps and drive stepper noises when the computer's booting up.
Floppy disks were a human size. When we need removable media now, it's either a microSD card, which are so tiny there's no way to label them, and thumb drives, which...USB-A is irritating.
I miss those "giant" zip disks that lasted like 5 years as a storage media. They were between 3.5 floppies and burnable CD Roms.
I recently got into LPs. It's slowly replacing the default home music source. It's really satisfying to have solid physical media.
With 5¼" disks, it was more convenient to keep them in a ring binder by punching holes in them.
The other similar story I've heard is someone asking for the backup copy of a disk and being handed a photocopy.
What kind of system are you backing up on a single 1.44 mb disk? I guess “restore” just had the restore utilities.
You could boot an old pc from floppy like what later would be called a live CD. Though you were constantly switching disks. Like if you ever played Monkey Island on 5.25” floppies.
Older PCs couldn't always boot from CD. In those cases, you needed a boot disk. It had just enough OS to get the cd drive working and allow for a full install. They also allowed for basic repair or maintenance tasks e.g. resizing the windows partition.
Veterans kept a couple about at home. Nothing like the catch 22. "I need a boot disk to fix my PC/I need my PC to make a boot disk."
When the OS is DOS you can easily fit the entire thing on a floppy.
Mac OS system 6 too, I think.
A lot of terraform and docker compose files could fit on a floppy still.
Actually, that might be a fun thing to play with. It might not have data. But you could back up a good amount of config and deployment information and have a system to restore data to.
Oh, there's a- Monkey in my pocket! And he's stealing all my change! His stare is blank and glassy I suspect he's deraaaaaanged!
You used to be able to get a whole-ass router that fit on 1.2MB in the late 90's.
Novell SPX routers also ran from a single floppy
Before bios supported bootable cd's you needed them to get the windows 95 install started.
That said, this was an obvious joke image :)
Imagine, if you will, the person who is wise to the effect on a floppy disk, but uses a CD instead (Or DVD). They use it a few times but then it too stops working. Why?
Answer:
Repeated clamping between the fridge and the magnet scratches or destroys enough of the metal layer, which is on the label side, to the point that the disc becomes unreadable.
There's also that leaving a disc out in daylight for long enough can destroy its readability, especially if it's a user-written (burned) disc.
The real question is where are the people in that picture now?
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