Other people have already mentioned this, but Google absolutely spies on the whole OS when it makes the OS, either Android or Chrome OS, Google Play Services are spyware and also required for full Android functionality
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Meanwhile at Meta:
Facebook and Instagram Are Spying on Your Internet Activity
Meta Apps Caught Tracking Users in Incognito & VPN Modes
Meta Is Recruiting Former Pentagon Officials As It Ramps Up Military Ambitions
Meta Is Recruiting Former Pentagon Officials As It Ramps Up Military Ambitions
Reading that headline is crazy, why would Meta have any military ambitions. And then in the first sentence of the text they mention AI. I guess they need to use AI for any possible application to show that they get value from their large investments.
Why? Governmemt contracts of course. Sweet sweet borrowed money the feds shovel to their donor pals, then just kickback.
Ai stuff is dark, real dystopian shit they are working on, israel did a bunch of it, kill decisions, killbots too, but analyzing associations and threat detection amd whatever else nazis had them program it to do in their reprisals against the ghetto.
But they are putting these systems on all data, to make half baked threat assessments, dystopia past regimes could not dream of.
Google doesn't spy only the web. There are some pretty common and completely legal devices, that Google takes advantage of to spy in people's everyday life. Those devices are called Android phones.
the closest thing Linux has to spying is the strictly opt-in Debian package popularity contest lol
...or installing Red Star OS. There are Linux distros with built-in spying, they just aren't very popular.
I mean spy only on the web? Android Google is like the most important piece of project in corporate surveillance and don't get me started on A-GPS
Google spies through androidOS
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This was really helpful. I know about GrapheneOS, but I didn't know install was this easy
@Aneb giving your browser, an environment which is meant to run untrusted code, direct control over your pcs hardware, especially to modify the firmware of your phone, sounds like asking for a lot of trouble. @lunarequest goes into great detail, why we as society should avoid using WebUSB, especially the pivacy concerned individuals among us. See: nullrequest.com/posts/Thecasea
i like the meme, but here is the real version

The mail (a web service), the calendar (a web service), YouTube (web videos), YouTube Music (web music), Google Maps (a web based mapping service)...
You get the picture.
Android spies on you when you're doing things locally on the device. But, the rest of these are web-based services.
Google spies through its OS too.
Only Apple users think Apple isn't spying on them.
And Apple users are about to realize with the new Apple AI aka Google Gemini that they ARE spying on them.
Everyone who believes their big tech software doesnt spy as much as possible are naive fools
But its almost impossible to avoid anyway
So i can understand that a lot of people just dont care
Myself included, though i do use linux, its not for privacy reasons. I just like linux better thqn windows.
Work requires a mac, and github by microsoft. What you want me to do?
No they won't. Apple users are either tech illiterate or sycophantic. They won't realize that the "year in review" is actually just a showcase of how much info they have on you.
Everything is just black and whiteβ¦
Excuse me, tech illiterate and sycophantic are clearly shades of grey.
Oh is Apple finally releasing different colors again? :p
"The new Mac: Now in tech illiterate white/greyish and sycophantic gray/blackish."
Used to know an apple fan in college, he almost screamed at me for buying a wired mouse with a good sensor rather than a wireless one with a bad one, because according to Apple, I would benefit more from the latter, and otherwise I'm setting back "wireless mains power tech", which I showed a disinterest in by buying the wired mouse. He also called me a child when I bought a graphics card.
TIL that as a software engineer I must be tech illiterate as Iβm no sycophant. How shocking that I use an Apple phone as it just works for what I want. Iβd be in the same boat if I used Android and I choose convenience when choosing a phone, gone are my days of geeking out for a month trying to get my banking app to work.
One might argue youβre a little dense if you think the world is this black and white.
You're the exception among Apple users.
I say this with nearly 4 decades in IT. Most Apple users are even more clueless than a typical Windows users, which is saying something.
I work in an office with 5 other software engineers all of them smarter than me. Out of those 5 4 have iPhone and the 1 has some cheap android.
Sometimes people just want to choose a phone and nothing more. Itβs not that deep bro and itβs stupid to label all x is y.
You're most definitely not an engineer if you could not figure out how to install a banking app on Android phone. Rest of the humanity already figured that out.
I wasnβt talking about stock Android. I was thinking more that if I switch from iOS then Iβm not going to Android (Google) so Iβd have to use GrapheneOS where those kind of apps are not really simple to get running if you can at all.
That's not really an Android problem, that's rooting (or on iphones - jailbreaking) problem. Stock android, just like your stock iPhone, should not have such problems, so it's very disingenuous for you to not mention anything about you rooting/hacking/modifying your device and just saying "android bad, iPhone good", not very engineer-like of you. Be more objective next time and skip the narrative-bending
After reading it back Iβll cede that it does read that way.
My intention, admittedly not well executed, was to say that itβs either iOS or Android and they both have pros and cons. Other that those choices itβs to use GrapheneOS where you find it harder to install things.
The reason I think was because this place is very pro GrapheneOS or similar ones so figured that would be a given. Otherwise Apple or Google itβs like the choice between being shot in the head or having you neck snapped, neither is ideal but you have to choose one.
Next month, Microsoft forced Mojang to comply with the UK government Online Safety Act. All users must upload Digital ID or some other form of Age Verification to a third party company called Yoti. Or else they won't get to use the chat, friends list, and other social features. All users are affected for now it seems. Yoti claim they will delete the data right away and not store it. This means that even in single player we can't use commands and see achievements and stuff like that. Really annoying. EDIT: Turns out this is on both Java and Bedrock and probably all platforms such as mobile! Not sure how or when it will happen though.
I will literally never verify my real life ID for some online service. I will cut out that service from my life before betraying my own privacy to such a degree. I will throw my computer out the window before ever doing this.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
on a totally unrelated note, been playing a lot of voxelibre in luanti lately
Surely this affects only some very new version rarely anyone plays, and not the good versions all the modpacks are built upon?
Unfortunately, we don't know exactly how it will work. It turns out actually both Bedrock and Java will have to do age verification. We don't know if they will let you use mods or earlier versions. Probably not cause then what's the point? I don't know how they will do it because they haven't explained that part yet.
I would have assumed this would apply to Bedrock and not Java since Bedrock is the one which uses Xbox live, whereas Java can be run completely offline.
What would happen if I ran Minecraft Java on my Linux computer with my internet disconnected?
It's Java too! Unfortunately, we don't know exactly how or when. For example, we don't know if it will be in a certain update or all updates. Or if mods will get around it or not.
What about using a VPN? (Yes, I know the UK government are talking about restricting/banning them too, though I highly doubt they'll ban them outright)
I haven't updated my main survival world since 1.19, but that really sucks for everyone else. Hopefully modders will find a way around it.
Jokes on you! I know that Apple knows that I know they know.
Yeah Apple is pretty transparent about it and what they use it for (allegedly) havenβt really seen anything saying Apple is using more than they claim/say.
Either way Linux is so much better.
Also acceptable:
Linux: You guys have users?
linux to apple: you think yours don't?
I've seen a lot of people defend apple. I lowkey thing me talking bad about apple (and provide sources) on a privacy subreddit triggered someone enough to get my reddit account banned. That or badtalking apple is against reddit TOS.
Linux picks a random user out of the hat to prove it - gets someone using android with play services. erm . . . ignore them . . . that doesn't count.
Just because it uses the Linux kernel doesn't mean it's real Linux. Google took everything that made Linux good - customisation, root access, privacy, freedom - out of Linux to make Android
That is the same kind of pedantry as claiming that ketchup is a smoothie because the tomato is a fruit.
I am switching to a typewriter and physical mail π
We all should. Even go a bit further and write things by hand!
As if physical mail hasn't been spied on for the last two centuries as well.
Yes, but while you're having your e-mails scanned by AI, my mail is being spied on... slowly π
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