What a thorough article. It seems that it is finally true; I just visit that site for the articles.
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I'm not really against age verification, the problem is that I'm very, very against having a government backed database of all porn I visit. Nobodies really assured me that current implementations aren't doing that.
Plus, at the rate we're going I'm not really sure how much longer porn will be legal, free speech rights be damned. Both the right and the left and the younger generation seem fully invested in 'save the kids' mentality these days.
Some users might even be tempted to turn to the dark web to escape this wave of state overreach — though we certainly don’t recommend it.
If you're going to the dark web for porn, you're gonna have a bad time.
Honestly you don't need true "dark web"
There are plenty of ways to bypass censorship
what’s likely is that users will scatter across so many sites, apps, proxies, and channels that they’ll become untraceable, guaranteeing the failure of future regulations. And unlike today, many of those new destinations will be dangerous, unmoderated, and openly hostile to enforcement.
That seems to be the argument; that these verification laws specifically target dedicated porn sites while similar content still exists all over and is not similarly punished, which given people's extreme and natural aversion to doing KYC for porn will cause them to leave for wherever doesn't demand it, killing off what protections now exist against especially shady material and practices.
No easy access to legal porn means illegal porn becomes more profitable. That's very bad.
Prohibition and the war on drugs sure worked out well when they were implemented. Surely this time ...
... I mean getting rid of standards and quality control ... and testing can't possibly have adverse effects here. Ah well. We're speed running regression in just about everything else: what's one more offering for the pyre?
Surely the children will thank us for ... saving them ... when they are older.
It's like drugs if you could Ctrl-c Ctrl-v an identical copy of your drugs Into existence out of thin air
This is a super bad idea. You think they're gonna fear monger off of the inevitable result of the problems they are creating?
It's like drugs and alcohol in that the urge is there just no easy and legal access to the same outlets. In the case of porn - I'd say it's gonna get bad.
Will they fear monger? Have they wasted a single opportunity to do so yet? I'd be hard pressed to point at a time where we had stopped.
I trust Pornhub too not post illegal porn on their website. What happens when you throw everything, including safe for work books that talk about gay topics or anything Christians don't like into one big bin called illegal?
...or anything Christians don't like into one big bin called illegal?
Not to lump everyone into the same boat but I'll take the low hanging fruit for the obvious low blow:
I'll tell you one thing that those churches seem to like that will definitely not see an uptick as we make legal outlets less accessible....
One thing they didn't focus on is how it explicitly makes sexual minorities feel unsafe. When Pornhub enabled age verification in my conutry via soc media authorization, I freaked out and stopped using it because I didn't want my real identity being connected to my watch history in any way. It wasn't disclosed on entry if the VA broker can collect info on what I'm interested in, and it is a major security risk if one's state becames authoritarian and would get a handy database of people watching everything but vanilla.
That is of course the point because they are nazis. Find a different websites, the internet will have porn not restricted by Fascism. It's simply simply impossible not to
I'd want to hear Lemmynsfw mods because it's one thing when Pornhub or Xvideos as business get attacked by that, and the other - is non-monetized platform with a couple of powerusers and plenty small OC creators.
Also I use Private Browsing for porn, so if I have to sign in every time to some third party age verification service - which is never saved logins because it's private browsing - that's an additional roadblock to mainstream sites.
There’s a kernel of something positive in decentralization, though. Me pointing this out feels a little bit like someone saying how good COVID lockdown was for the environment, but I still feel like it’s an important point.
An internet made of lots of small sites is better at resisting censorship and centralized control. People should remain accustomed to using a bunch of individual sites, not JUST the biggest sites on the internet, and amateur sysadmins should maintain their “host a public web server from an at-home business internet connection” chops.
There being lots of small porn sites makes it harder for anyone to apply pressure and make certain kinds of affirming content disappear.
That’s … just about everything positive I could say about this idea. Not a fan.
We agree with Meta (Facebook, Instagram), Aylo (Pornhub), and many others that the only effective solution to the problem of minors accessing porn is a systematic approach — applied at the device level, or at least at a higher layer than individual sites, such as app stores.
Oh no, please, no.
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