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[–] 54 points 10 months ago (1 child)

People who migrate from states with a strong “culture of honor” bring with them a don’t-back-down defensiveness learned in their home communities, and that makes them more likely to die by violence even in historically safe states [...] The most violent U.S. regions — Appalachia, the Deep South and the old frontier states — are still deeply marked by a Wild West, stand-your-ground ethos,

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    The study doesn't seem to do any calculations regarding socioeconomic statuses? I doubt a wealthy highly-educated man from Kentucky would have similar "following violence" if he moved to Wisconsin or whatever the examples were... or someone moving for a long-term job offer... but rather people from worse socioeconomic backgrounds moving to a bigger city without many promises and then getting caught up in more shit.

    It's the same result regardless, but it doesn't feel like it's only because of some macho-culture thing.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    While I agree with you to some extent, I would also argue that someone who grows up in a culture where many disputes are "solved" with violence, or where a noticable percentage of people don't have the emotional maturity to handle their anger without physical expression, is also likely to struggle with those issues when they move away from that culture. Socioeconomic class is not a replacement for emotional maturity, it simply gives one some more leeway before some types of pressure apply - and they're often replaced with other types of pressure.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You are sorta right but missing the idea of inheritance. A man in Kentucky with enough resources to move probably didn't live in a trailer park or likely didn't go to public school. He was raised with a tutor and in "that house" in the town.

    Moving doesn't make you a better person but if you have the means your child is not growing up in that culture, maybe Kentucky but not in a trailer...

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago

    This sounds like a topic that can be very easily taken and smacked with any politically leaning context

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    America is a warrior nation. What they call news is actually fear mongering twaddle. Their heroic archetypes in film solve problems with violence. The state itself increasingly behaves like a robber baron. They are obsessed with weapons. School shootings are but one grotesque outcome of this pathology but however disgusting those events are, gun ownership is ubiquitous. It's a society that would destroy itself rather than admit it's wrong.

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  • [–] 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    As a lifelong resident of the United States, TIL there are non-violent states. Apparently. Somewhere.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    TIL: Violent citizens more from state to state taking the violence with them?

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    So you're saying Americans are the problem?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Violence from who? Seems like somehow where they are moving to must be equally as violent in some way.

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