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[–] 7 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Wow moron libertarians have infiltrated lemmy.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

    Yep! There is a Liberty community on this server and several others 🙂

    https://lemmy.world/c/libertarianism

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Wow. Two posts in 3 months. Super active.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Well. You have to start somewhere. 🙂

    We have a big community on Signal and Discord, but Lemmy hasn't quite taken off.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Why don't you go live in the woods if you hate society so much.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Hey guess what, today is educate a libertarian day.

    The money don’t come out of thin air. Your property taxes are highest in the nation, you have extra business taxes, extra fuel taxes, and specific targeted fees that make up for it.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

    You got me! 🙂

    • Yes, our property taxes are kind of high. There is legislation proposed this year to cap them at inflation.
    • I don't think our Business Enterprise (payroll) tax is that high, but there is also a rollback planned for this year, from 0.55% to 0.50%.
    • We receive our share of federal gas tax, and we have tolls on the major highways which generate money for road repairs. That's more of a user fee than a tax, which is much better!

    All of that still doesn't change the fact that our workers take home 100% of their pay (from the state at least)! 🙂

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    That's more of a user fee than a tax, which is much better!

    Is it though? It prices people out of things. Eventually yourself included

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    It is. Broad-based taxes take money from everyone whether they use the service or not. With a user fee, the way to avoid paying it is to not use the service.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Oh but its not, because people who may require said service may not have the means to use it. That's what being a part of a society is about.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Wow, what a terrible idea, so. It means no safety net for people, not even for those lucky strikes that send you 1 week ICU.

    Also it means that the goverment can not act like the last resource insurance or just distribute the risk to all the population for risk wide county, effectively reducing the quota at the same time that nobody is left behind.

    Also not future planning or things with long return investment...

    What more could go wrong?

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    So do they not repair roads or what

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Their motto is "Live Free or Die" but weed is still illegal. Also, sure they have no income tax but their property tax is insane.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 months ago*

    You're right. There's still work to do!

    Weed is legal for medical use, and a bill for recreational use passed the house this year, but it died in the Senate.

    Also, there is legislation to cap property taxes at the rate of inflation.

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    [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Neither does Texas. It’s nothing to brag about. Just look at the state of TX infrastructure.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    If only the tax we pay was used for healthcare, education and basic social needs like public transports. Instead, to finance wars or other ideology, these budgets are cut. Taxes end up fueling bullshit like ice raids, ballrooms, company buyouts and what have you...

    That said I wonder how the social construct is maintained in new Hampshire without taxes. Does that mean no public school or hospitals (or maybe those are financed at the federal level ?)

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago

    We still have to pay federal income tax. There is no state income tax.

    Yes we have public schools and hospitals, yes we pave our roads. I think a lot of people have been led to believe it is either or, but it turns out when taxes are lowered, government starts prioritizing their spending better.

    We have a lot of taxes for specific uses, where only tbe user pays it: a tax on liquor, toll roads, a tax on gambling profits and a tax on hotel stays.  None of these are essential goods or services. So if you don't use them, you don't pay it. 🙂

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Not well researched on this, but off the top of my head it doesn't seem like the best policy (disproportionally impacts low income people.) The state still needs to collect money for maibtaining roads, libraries, schools, etc. This is likely coming from stuff like sales tax, etc. People on lower incomes are more likely to spend a higher portion of their income on goods (food, gas, etc.) Since the price of those is semi-fixed relative to income, while those who are of higher income are more likely to save the money. This leads to low income people effectively being taxed more of their wage than high income people. Might be totally wrong though, would really need to look at the policies on this style of taxation and if it makes any sense. What probably matters most is where the governments revenue is actually coming from.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago

    New Hampshire has no sales tax either. At the local level we have property tax.  We also collect a decent amount of money from toll roads, a tax on liquor, a tax on gambling profits and a tax on hotel stays and restaurants.  Oh and there is a payroll tax.

    As you can see, we rely more on user fees than broad based taxes.  The way to lower your taxes is to not partake in these services.

    As you mentioned, both income and sales tax are basically a tax on living your normal life.

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