Source: Pew Research

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[–] 93 points 1 year ago (6 children)

A map about people who paid attention in history and government class vs those who didn’t.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Exactly. Grew up Christian and it convinced me to be agnostic. Even then, I still would never add religious beliefs to the teaching of children early in life, when they clearly lack intelligent decision making skills.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, are you ever convinced as an agnostic? I thought, that was the point.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    I think teaching about religion is fine and actually good for interacting with people outside your culture. Teaching of a specific religion is where you run into trouble.

    I had a unit early on in school and another one in my early teens where we basically learned about the origins of a bunch of different religions and cultures surrounding them. Learned a lot about people that otherwise would seem unapproachable to me.

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    I thought that the deeply religious states were more of a minority. Yikes.

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    They are. Those areas are thinly populated.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Ohio and Florida are thinly populated? Texas has a large area but also population.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ohio is mostly corn and "Hell is real" billboards.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Just over half of U.S. adults (52%) say they favor allowing public school teachers to lead their classes in prayers that refer to Jesus

    Nationwide, a slightly larger share of Americans say they favor allowing teacher-led prayers referencing God (57%)

    It's right there in OP.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    To learn anything about American politics you need a county level map.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    With size adjusted to account for population! It becomes useless as a map, but significantly more illustrative of the political realities.

    The US 2020 Presidential Election Cartogram:

    Oh, and here's 2024

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I grew up in one of those states and it's part of why I'm a certified America Hater today. I genuinely don't think people who haven't been exposed to it, even within the country, but especially outside of it, really have a grasp on how prominent and powerful religion is in the US. Hell, I didn't fully understand it myself until I lived outside of the country for a time and saw what normal is like. This country is a madhouse.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    That's a lot of stupid morons who pretend to care about the constitution but don't.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons."

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  • The point of the establishment clause is that it shouldn't matter what the majority says about religion. It should mean exactly nothing. Tyranny of the majority shouldn't be allowed to make non-Christians into second class citizens.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I'm saving this for when the civil war is about to break out and I need a rough estimate of where the front lines will be.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If there's a civil war, Michigan will quickly be appropriated to Canada.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    If it were all purely based on this map, all states in grey and brown could join canada and still be a country with a single (ok very long and hard to defend) border to the remaining US states.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The only states id maybe be interested in as a Canadian is California, New York and Washington (also Maine because why do they even extend so far into Québec?).

    For real though, with the Democrats response to Trump, I don’t really want them anywhere near Canadian politics. They’d make our Liberals look socialist

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As culture wars continue to brew in schools across the United States, one unconventional group is pushing for more representation in the classroom: Satanists. This has particularly caused controversy in states like Tennessee, where an elementary school formed a program for children called the "After School Satan Club." 

    This program was created by an organization called the Satanic Temple, a relatively new religious movement that purports to teach "compassion and empathy toward all creatures." However, the introduction of these clubs has unsurprisingly made parents upset, while supporters of the Satanic Temple say they are working to improve the lives of children.

    https://theweek.com/education/satanists-school-representation-after-school-satan-club

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    What the fuck

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago
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    What the fuck Michigan

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  • Lookit that. The states with religious indoctrination vs states with educational “indoctrination.”

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There's your problem in a nutshell, America.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There is no way utah and idaho are neutral here

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    You’d be surprised. The non-Christian/Non-Mormon population of those states is extremely convinced of the need for separation of church and state.

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  • Interesting, places that many cultures and beliefs are coming led heavily oppose it, while states that are majority WASPs are for it.

    Interesting that simply being around people of other beliefs can change your way of thinking.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Tax the church!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If they want there is nothing stopping them from praying in school if they want, they just can't compel others to do it with them.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    The United States had a good run. I hope I see the entire West Coast secede in my lifetime.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How was the research conducted? Their website talks about the sample size, but I didn't see how respondents were selected. They claim it's representative of the national population, but if they're cold-calling random people to ask the questions, I can almost guarantee there are going to be more older people responding because younger people tend not to answer unknown phone calls.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/religious-landscape-study-methodology/

    A total of 205,100 sampled addresses were mailed survey invitations. Respondents were given a choice to complete the survey online, by mail, or by calling a toll-free number and completing the survey over the phone with an interviewer. Of the 36,908 U.S. adults who completed the survey, 25,250 did so online, 10,733 did so by mail, and 925 did so by phone.

    It goes on to say the results were then weighted to get a representative demographic sample, e.g. if more older people answered, younger responders would count for more.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Jesus Christ.

    And I say that without a hint of irony.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I live in Michigan, and it's anecdotal because I tend to surround myself with secular people, but I find this hard to believe.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Why just Christian prayers? Why not prayer in general?

    Use a generic "what do you think about prayer in public schools?" survey, and then where states vote YES create campaigns to make satanic and Muslim prayer programs at schools in the states that were all for prayer lol

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    That is not surprising.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Funny part is .... it has absolutely no indication of how religious or moral any of these regions are

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I love maps that are basically just population density maps

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Idaho….? Utah? Neutral, really?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    I feel bad for Colorado, always stuck in the middle.

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)