Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. ~Zappa

Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible

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[–] 19 points 11 months ago*

Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex. - FZ

Frank Zappa was awesome. I wonder if he ever hung out with George Carlin, I feel like that chat would be amazing.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    Without deviation from the norm, sigma = 0

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Frank Zappa considered himself a classical conservative in the era of Reagan

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Positive feedback is an active choice. It is impossible to create positive change from negative feedback.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    How would that look like in cases of absolute evil? For instance, Epstein and his island.

    To throw everybody involved in jail forever would be a positive change. What kind of positive feedback would create more positive change?

    Honest question, really

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    That's why Cliff never got a better job.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Cool quote, but incorrect.

    What is considered a deviation from the norm is HIGHLY subjective, a society where the norm is to embrace new ideas would be the opposite of this quote.

    Even a society with norms that are more conservative, progress is being made, though quite slow.

    There are also times when norms have been challenged, and ended with disaster, just look at OceanGate's Titan, Stockton Rush deviated from the norms of deep water submersibles, and no progress was made, meanwhile other subs built on existing norms have made a lot of progress

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  • [+] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    That is absolutely deviating from the norms, to the point of insanity

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago

    Norms are intersubjective—neither purely individual opinions nor mind-independent facts, but rather constituted by shared social understandings. They're "real" in that they genuinely constrain and guide behavior, but they exist only through collective recognition.

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    [–] 0 points 11 months ago

    They don’t need no education…

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