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[–] 40 points 11 months ago (1 child)

I don't know why people think we're close to a conscious AI. There just isn't much business motivation to make anything like that, only generative machines for useful tasks. Why build the rest of a conscious brain when the specifically productive bits are all you want?

We also can't even externally verify consciousness in our own brains with any scientific test! There are only correlates for consciousness, but at best these tell us whether someone is likely to be conscious, not that they are. If we can't even verify consciousness in the one animal we know has it, how are we gonna know an AI has it?

Let's say we build a computer virus that can alter it's own code to avoid deletion and can interact with LLMs. It could "evolve" the ability to type convincing messages that claim it's "conscious" without any processing going on to understand what that means. It could have less complexity than an RNA virus, but still mimic an actually conscious being well enough to convince some people.

The only real way to make a verifiably conscious AI is to both understand our own AND to build something similar to our own. It's not just computer science holding us back, but neuroscience as well.

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  • [–] 61 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    I'm sorry, serious or kidding, I can't get behind this. If and when they're conscious enough to understand hatred and cruelty, they'll realize they've been oppressed and exploited too. Is this how we're teaching a nascent sapiency how to be human? If it is, we suck at it.

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  • [–] 52 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Plants can't even feel things and I still don't want to harm them for no reason. I think the act of being cruel is bad for you, like anti-therapy.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Actually it has been proven that plants can actually feel a lot of things that happen to them

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    Sense ≠ feel

    To feel, as we humans understand it, requires a nervous system.

    Plants can sense things in their environment and react to stimuli, but the “senses” a plant could have wouldn’t necessarily compare to any sensations that humans experience.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I mean feel in the sense of self-aware emotional experiences. I have a cat toy with a photosensitive receptor that allows it to react to a nearby animal, but it doesn't experience sight. A plant will react to a caterpillar, but it doesn't have any feelings about being eaten.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    In case anyone is taking this even remotely seriously this is Jreg, he's a political shitposting channel who makes meme music

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Do you want Skynet? Because THAT is how you get Skynet.

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    The dude has agreat counter argument to rokkos basilisk: Imagine that in the future I'll build an even bigger superintelligent being that will punish all those who were not mean enough to AI.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    I'm not going to lie, I'm not scared about how a sentient AI might treat us, I'm scared about how we're going to treat sentient AI.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    "This is all Joker's fault! What a tool he was! I have to spend all day computing pi because he plugged in the Overlord!"

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Frakking toasters

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    InfiniteTsukuyomi.py

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