Swiss surveillance could become worse than USIf passed, chat, email & VPN providers from #Switzerland must:🚨 Log IP addresses🚨 Ask for ID upon sign up🚨 Decrypt data upon requestSwiss Bundesrat is still discussing this draft bill, decision will likely be made in 2026.Let's fight for #privacy! πŸ‘‰ tuta.com/blog/switzerland-surv

Title: Switzerland plans surveillance that is worse than US

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[–] 2 points 11 months ago

@Tutanota After all that I hope big companies will understand and will not start to cry and ask from the governments mandatory laws so people have! To use their technology products because they loosing money and power because many people will stop or don't want to use them any more...

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    @Tutanota does absolutely nothing but restrict freedoms under the illusion of security

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  • @Tutanota Switzerland has quickly gone from being the country with the best internet laws to the country with the worst.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota Remember the Fichenpolizei from back in the 1990s in Switzerland? It was a personal data collection scandal at the time I was based there for a brief time.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota i'll learn from anywhere, anyone.. thanks

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  • @Tutanota I'm sure this is a complete coincidence:"Switzerland wins US tariff rate cut to 15%, pledges $200 billion in US investments"reuters.com/business/retail-co

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota die armen Schweitzer

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  • @Tutanota Why do I get the feeling that lately, in so many countries, new regulations are popping up with only one purpose - to erode privacy πŸ”“? It feels like a bad joke. I can't keep up anymore.I wish I could fight them all at once, put pressure everywhere 🌍, no matter where I live. But I don't have the time. I'm already drowning in an endless to-do list.Why couldn't the government set a different deadline? Why are they so determined to push this through? My mind can't wrap around it :blobcatweary: I just hope they come to their senses and never implement it πŸ™#Privacy #HumanRights #Switzerland #SwissPrivacy #EU #ChatControl #FightChatControl #UK #OnlineSafetyAct #AgeVerification #Surveillance #StopSurveillance

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota Oh fuck! What does this mean for all the Swiss-based privacy and security platforms, like Proton?I mean, Proton's CEO Andy Yen already showed his true colors by advocating for Trump's support of little guy "tech startups" (read: Sillycon Valley broligarchs), so I'm already transitioning out of Proton's ecosystem.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota So US no way, Switzerland neither and EU? Not anymore they are also building mass surveillance laws. This trend is worrying. I already have my emails in Norway, my docs and pictures are in Swtzerland in Infomaniak, I will now start to look for alternative.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota Meanwhile, here in the EU, they're readying Chat Control for another run. What did we do to deserve this timeline? :hurb:

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota Just out of curiosity, if you use your own email client and send GPG/PGP encrypted email, how does an email provider decrypt it?Sometimes encryption is a necessity even if privacy isn't an issue. Example: I've used encryption to send a JAR file to a friend for testing: he had a gmail account and Googledoesn't allow JAR files as email attachments to "protect the user". This hid it fromGoogle's software. It wasn't really secret - the password was in the email's text.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota Online Safety Act 2.0

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota They sure as hell won’t change their bank privacy laws, potentially exposing the crimes of billionaire and political elites.Will dump Proton and mag on their brand if this BS passes. Don’t try to lick the vic. We’re privacy focused and hella vocal #protonmail #DataPrivacy #CybersecurityandDataProtection

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota No joke, unfortunately.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota proton mail?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota what can i do?

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  • @Tutanota So ... How bout all those "privacy" SaaS providers based in Switzerland....

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota Not only do these people want to control your thoughts, they also want to steal your ideas : hence the decrypting.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I feel like the us is going to be the new worse than. china, russia, north korea is out and us is in. Makes sense considering.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

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    @Tutanota Really curious about what this means for Quad9. I'd hate to have to find another DNS provider.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota wonder why there was a recent USA/swiss deal?reuters.com/business/retail-co

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @Tutanota yes, learning that, it killed proton for me.

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