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Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Happy Halloween, everyone!)

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[–] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

KDE showing how it should be done:

https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-www/2025-October/009275.html

Question:

I am curious why you do not have a link to your X social media on your website. I know you are just forwarding posts to X from your Mastodon server. However, I’m afraid that if you pushed for more marketing on X—like DHH and Ladybird do—the hype would be much greater. I think you need a separate social media manager for the X platform.

Response:

We stopped posting on X for several reasons:

  1. The owner is a nazi
  2. The owner censors non- nazis and promotes nazis and their messages
  3. (Hence) most people who remain on X or are clueless and have difficulty parsing written text (one would assume), or are nazis
  4. Most of the new followers we were getting were nazi-propaganda spewing bots (7 out of 10 on average) or just straight up nazis.

Our community is not made up of nazis and many of our friendly contributors would be the target of nazi harassment, so we were not sure what we were doing there and stopped posting and left.

We are happy with that decision and have no intention of reversing it.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago*

    back in ~my~ day cartel oligarchs would meet in secret to fix prices for products you cannot live without, then get a ton of profit and swim in money, while backstabbing one another at any opening with blackmail and assassins and whatnot. sometimes they'd fund a library or something to pretend they were philanthropists.

    cartels these days make pretend products that nobody wants, then promise they're going to "invest" one quadrillion dollars on the other oligarch's company to create more virtual husbandos, and the other company in turn promises they're going to buy one quadrilllion dollars of "compute" from the first company, so that both can report one quadrillion dollars of "growth" for doing absolutely nothing. like who are they even trying to impress here. then the oligarch hires people to pretend he can play Diablo. what happened to honest, salt-of-the-earth exploitation of the masses, huh. the boot stomping on my face is all cheap plastic nowadays. they gotta replace it every 3 years and the new model doesn't even fit my face anymore. they don't make cartels like they used to

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    Ugh. Hank Green just posted a 1-hour interview with Nate Soares about That Book. I'm halfway through on 2x speed and so far zero skepticism of That Book's ridiculous premises. I know it's not his field but I still expected a bit more from Hank.

    A YouTube comment says it better than I could:

    Yudkowsky and his ilk are cranks.

    I can understand being concerned about the problems with the technology that exist now, but hyper-fixating on an unfalsifiable existential threat is stupid as it often obfuscates from the real problems that exist and are harming people now.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    it often obfuscates from the real problems that exist and are harming people now.

    I am firmly on the side of it's possible to pay attention to more than one problem at a time, but the AI doomers are in fact actively downplaying stuff like climate change and even nuclear war, so them trying to suck all the oxygen out of the room is a legitimate problem.

    Yudkowsky and his ilk are cranks.

    That Yud is the Neil Breen of AI is the best thing ever written about rationalism in a youtube comment.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    there is now a video on SciShow about it too.

    This perception of AI as a competent agent that is inching ever so closer to godhood is honestly gaining way too much traction for my tastes. There's a guy in the comments of Hank's first video, I checked his channel and he has a video "We Are Not Ready for Superintelligence" and it got whopping 8 million views! There's another channel I follow for sneers and their video on Scott's AI 2027 paper has 3.7 and million views and a video about AI "attempted murder" has 8.5 million. Damn.

    I wonder when the market finally realises that AI is not actually smart and is not bringing any profits, and subsequently the bubble bursts, will it change this perception and in what direction? I would wager that crashing the US economy will give a big incentive to change it but will it be enough?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I could also see the response to the bubble bursting being something like "At least the economy crashing delayed the murderous superintelligence."

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'm betting on a new version of the "stabbed in the back" myth. Fash love that one.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago

    I wonder when the market finally realises that AI is not actually smart and is not bringing any profits, and subsequently the bubble bursts, will it change this perception and in what direction? I would wager that crashing the US economy will give a big incentive to change it but will it be enough?

    Once the bubble bursts, I expect artificial intelligence as a concept will suffer a swift death, with the many harms and failures of this bubble (hallucinations, plagiarism, the slop-nami, etcetera) coming to be viewed as the ultimate proof that computers are incapable of humanlike intelligence (let alone Superintelligence™). There will likely be a contingent of true believers even after the bubble's burst, but the vast majority of people will respond to the question of "Can machines think?" with a resounding "no".

    AI's usefulness to fascists (for propaganda, accountability sinks, misinformation, etcetera) and the actions of CEOs and AI supporters involved in the bubble (defending open theft, mocking their victims, cultural vandalism, denigrating human work, etcetera) will also pound a good few nails into AI's coffin, by giving the public plenty of reason to treat any use of AI as a major red flag.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I made it 30 minutes into this video before closing it.

    What I like about Hank is that he usually reacts to community feedback and is willing to change his mind when confronted with new perspectives, so my hope is that enough people will tell him that Yud and friends are cranks and he'll do an update.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I dunno about that, recent knitting drama took a while to clear up, and I'm not sure if AI sceptics are as determined a crowd as pissed off knitters.

    (Tl;dr on the drama: there was video on SciShow about knitting that many (myself included) felt was not well researched, misrepresented the craft, and had a misogynistic vibe. It took a lot of pressure from the knitting community to get, in order, a bad "apology", a better apology, and the video taken down.)

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    I might be behind the curve on this one, but ice are now using halo (the computer game) images in recruitment ads, and referring to immigrants (and people who look like immigrants, i guess) as “the flood”, the all-consuming alien horde who are one of the antagonists of the series.

    Given how microsoft are happy to contribute to the development of the epstein ballroom, I can only assume that they’re cool with all this.

    https://aftermath.site/microsoft-halo-dhs-ice-trump-flood

    A screenshot of a twitter post by the department of homeland security, showing an image from the halo video game series and the text “finishing this fight”, “destroy the flood” and a link to “join ice gov”.

    alt textA screenshot of a twitter post by the department of homeland security, showing an image from the halo video game series and the text “finishing this fight”, “destroy the flood” and a link to “join ice gov”.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    NB: a few cocktails in. Don't really have a point here. Everything sucks, including this.

    Halo: CE was written in the late 90s in the US, so it's pretty clear that it exists as a metaphor for conflict in the Middle East. It's initially humans (really space 'muricans) vs. the covenant (an ancient, religious empire with many references to abrahamic religion). The MC is a genetically modified supersoldier. Most shooters are fascistic military propaganda, intentional or no.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Bungie made Marathon before Halo and it's basically the same plot - supersoldier aided/hindered by AI/s fights an alien force consisting of many "integrated" species. It's a cheap way of making different enemies that are all antagonists.

    OFC why the colony ship Marathon needed a supersoilder on tap is never explained. After a while our protag gets involved in a rebellion against the Pfor's leaders and then we get Infinity which is just weird. Oh and there's an eldrich horror living in a star too.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Unfortunately, the music director Marty O Donnell (iirc?) for og halo games is a bug trumper and ran for office. And he made absolute banger sound tracks too!

    https://www.gamefile.news/p/halo-ice-developers-react

    Dev team leads at least denouncing it as the disgusting shit it is.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That’s depressing… I really liked the music direction of halo. It really stood out to me in a way that other games never manage. I can still hum the halo theme and a bunch of its score, but I’d be hard pressed to do that with any other game… I know the elder scrolls theme, I guess, but can’t remember much else about their sound design.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    if you enjoy older elder scrolls music, don't ask too many questions about jeremy soule either.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Master Chief, you mind telling me what you are doing on that ICE propaganda?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Yeah silence is being complicit in this case.

    Trump also posted an image of him in the masterchief suit. Without a helmet. Halo is not my thing but I think that is a thing which is not done, like with judge dredd, the helmet stays on.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (16 children)

    Employee at ‘plagiarism company’ defending transition to ‘plagiarism + pushing sex content onto children company’ insists that the reason they are pushing smut slop onto kids is due to their passion for creativity.

    S-tier big brain ai safety researcher chimes in:

    Masterful gambit, sir. Why didn’t we consider the fact that “automating all labour would produce more revenue”?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I realize it’s been poisoned since/by coiners, but god I hate that usage of “democratize”

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just pretend that it’s coming from a different root word “mocratize” meaning the opposite of whatever the fuck crypto is doing

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    it's democratic if i couldn't do it yesterday but i can do it today, even though it's not the same in any meaningful way

    edit: in all seriousness, it's disgusting the way they are pretending there is some noble intention behind any of this.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What professional athlete is a) working for OpenAI and b) wants to turn Sora into the bottomless fountain of goon?

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    And just as importantly, free-sprinted

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Oh God my brain is so used to turning typos into likely intended words that I missed "free-sprinted", which I'm going to guess in this context involves being athletic and horny and bottomless and possibly suffering from protein-powder-induced lead poisoning.

    That might explain why copilot is a cum sprite

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Apologies for doing journal club instead of sneer club.

    Voiseux, G., Tao Zhou, R., & Huang, H.-C. (Brad). (2025). Accepting the unacceptable in the AI era: When & how AI recommendations drive unethical decisions in organizations. Behavioral Science & Policy, 0(0). https://doi.org/10.1177/23794607251384574

    abstract:

    In today’s workplaces, the promise of AI recommendations must be balanced against possible risks. We conducted an experiment to better understand when and how ethical concerns could arise. In total, 379 managers made either one or multiple organizational decisions with input from a human or AI source. We found that, when making multiple, simultaneous decisions, managers who received AI recommendations were more likely to exhibit lowered moral awareness, meaning reduced recognition of a situation’s moral or ethical implications, compared with those receiving human guidance. This tendency did not occur when making a single decision. In supplemental experiments, we found that receiving AI recommendations on multiple decisions increased the likelihood of making a less ethical choice. These findings highlight the importance of developing organizational policies that mitigate ethical risks posed by using AI in decision-making. Such policies could, for example, nudge employees toward recalling ethical guidelines or reduce the volume of decisions that are made simultaneously.

    so is the moral decline a side effect, or technocapitalism working as designed.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The computer-science section of the arXiv has declared that they can't put up with all your shit any more.

    arXiv’s computer science (CS) category has updated its moderation practice with respect to review (or survey) articles and position papers. Before being considered for submission to arXiv’s CS category, review articles and position papers must now be accepted at a journal or a conference and complete successful peer review. When submitting review articles or position papers, authors must include documentation of successful peer review to receive full consideration. Review/survey articles or position papers submitted to arXiv without this documentation will be likely to be rejected and not appear on arXiv.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    from the folks who brought you

    we've trained a model to regurgitate 19th century pseudoscience

    the field of computer science presents: How to destroy a public good by skipping all the required reading in your liberal arts courses

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Grokipedia just dropped: https://grokipedia.com/

    It's a bunch of LLM slop that someone encouraged to be right wing with varying degrees of success. I won't copy paste any slop here, but to give you an idea:

    • Grokipedia's article on Wikipedia uses the word "ideological" or "ideologically" 23 times (compared with Wikipedia using it twice in it's Wikipedia article).
    • Any articles about transgender topics tend to mix in lots of anti-transgender misinformation / slant, and use phrases like "rapid-onset gender dysphoria" or "biological males". The last paragraph of the article "The Wachowskis" is downright unhinged.
    • The articles tend to be long and meandering. I doubt even Grokipedia proponents will ultimately get much enjoyment out of it.

    Also certain articles have this at the bottom:

    The content is adapted from Wikipedia, licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Decided to check the Grokipedia "article" on the Muskrat out of morbid curiosity.

    I haven't seen anything this fawning since that one YouTube video which called him, and I quote its title directly, "The guy who is saving the world".

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    To start this spooky Stubsack off, there's signs Framework are being slow on the refunds:

    Just a heads up I haven't gotten a refund from my cancelled FW12 order. Framework seems to be having trouble figuring it out.

    I don't know why, maybe it is Canada or maybe it is a high volume of similar requests, but it is a sign I always find concerning in a company I am worried about the financial stability of.

    Could be nothing, but if you have been wavering on a cancellation I figured you might want a heads up.

    This comes two weeks after Framework's public fash turn, and just a few days after their latest double down. "Go fash, lose cash" proves itself again.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    i'm trying to sell mine now

    but also i don't have any other computers and probably can't afford anything

    time for me to learn to use a pencil

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    The market should be flooded with used business laptops that can't be upgraded to Windows 11 but will take an easy Linux distro

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    oh fuck, i didn't think of that! thank you for the idea 💖

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    lightly used thinkpads are the classic choice for this — IT departments buy high spec ones then dump them for cheap a few years later in surplus sales or on eBay, and there are usually repair manuals and spare parts readily available. usually you can type the specific model and generation into a search and get a wiki page or at least a couple blog posts reporting how well they’re supported under linux, and Lenovo seems to intentionally do very well on compatibility since Linux compatibility is a nice checkbox for an enterprise laptop to have. just be careful you don’t get bamboozled into buying any of Lenovo’s consumer laptops, since they tend to be a fair bit cheaper and don’t have the same compatibility guarantees, repairability, or ample spare parts availability.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    my laptop is a budget model from 2016 and it runs xfce smoothly and happily lol. i code on it and watch streams and play slay the spire and all the usual stuff. idk how the stylus changes things but the required specs for doing quite a lot with linux are negligible

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    And on the subject of microsoft, this is a splendid way to describe the both that specific company, the us tech sector as a whole and entire us government for that matter:

    “We will build the tools of genocide, but never a sex bot” is such a condemnation of American society lolsob

    https://xoxo.zone/@Ashedryden/115452105359019979

    It was posted in reference to this article on the MIT technology review site, which gets an archive link because it has two overlapping cookie opt-out popups: https://archive.is/KhMqT

    It is an interview with microsoft’s mustafa suleyman, their head of ai. For all he claims to think that chatbots pretending to be people is bad, I don’t see him actually doing a whole lot about it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    but never a sex bot

    Not speaking for myself (because we were a gamecube household) but based on my internet travels, Cortana (from Halo, also in subject) was a sexual awakening for a lot of people. So maybe when he says "we" he only means the present cohort of microsofties.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, skintight palmtop hologram cortana certainly ticked some boxes there, but in-universe it was all a bit “everyone is beautiful, no-one is horny”, with a side order of “all assistants should be female and sexy”, to my mind at least.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    two overlapping cookie opt-out popups:

    Love when this happens and on your phone you cant even reach the buttons. The lost art of testing your websites.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    The lost art of testing your websites.

    i run with javascript disabled by default, and it's actually refreshing when a website at least displays "this shit requires javascript lol" instead of just not working

    the modern web sucks, let's all train ravens like asoiaf

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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