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[–] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Then the right question to ask Apple would be: "Why isn't the MacBook 70€ cheaper?"
Because if it isn't, blaming the EU law would just be a puny diversion from company greed.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    When Samsung did that around here (claiming they were importing the idea from the EU), they sent people the charger for free if they asked. They started including the charger again later, so I guess it wasn't very well received.

    But well, shortly after, when Apple did it, and charged people $15 for the charger, they were heavily fined.

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 1 year ago

    Apple is pretty famous for doing a lot of price ladder stuff. You can jump up to the next tier of a product by paying an extra $100 or so, and then once you get into that next tier, you see that the upgraded product has a cool feature you can unlock for another $100 or so.

    Those price ladders are pretty carefully crafted and they make the company a lot of money. I’ll bet that they’re going to keep those price points the same until all MacBooks and iPads are being sold sans charger.

    That said, there are ways that Apple could’ve given people a complimentary chargers if they needed one. Hell, if I spend n about of money, give me credit toward a free item.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The article explains this. They keep the price numbers the same between US and EU and just swap currency symbols. So the EU version is so much more expensive already, who is to say for certain whether there is a discount or not?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Goose meme

    Who sets the price?

    WHO SETS THE PRICE MOTHERFUCKERS

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    One of the fallacies of the EU anti-charger legislation is that the buyer may well have multiple USB-C chargers, but not have one which fulfills the charging requirements of the device (USB-C power delivery is a complicated thicket of wattages and capabilities as this PC World article notes: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2331534/the-bewildering-world-of-usb-c-charging-explained.html ).

    The 96W charger shown is at the higher end of USB-C's power delivery profiles, which further lessens the chance that a user will have an optimal charger on hand.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Yeah, the law was made for micro-USB and USB-C is a mess...

    To make it worse, some companies decided the top voltage would be 18V, while others use 21V or anything in between... So it's not clear if the power brick you brought, that satisfies all the numbers from the device will actually be useful to charge the device.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    It sure sucks that USB-C is such a mess. I was promised an end to messes with USB-C.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Love Apple or hate them they really did try to make it the universal standard way back in 2016.

    They released their entire lineup of laptops as USB-C only and were mocked endlessly for it.

    If only the IT world had jumped on board at that point we might not have the mess we have today.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    They deserve to be mocked. Two ports is a joke when one is required for charging.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Two? Don’t spoil us! Look at this 12" MacBook from early 2015

    It has a single USB-C port and literally NOTHING ELSE

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    That only works perfectly for 85%+ of Air buyers! :p

    Edit: NOT me I got all the ports (phew) yay big MBP

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have an M1 air. One is occupied by the docking station: 2 monitors, mouse, keyboard, webcam, headphones, loudspeakers, microphone occupied and still 1 aux, 2 USB-C, 3 USB-A, MicroSD and a regular SD available;

    The other Port on the MBA is occupied by the external SSD for maximum speed

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Wow you’re definitely really deep into the 15% (I’m making that number up but there must be so few people outside of tech who even use a single external monitor?)

    They buy the Mac, they open the Gmail and the Facebooks, they call it a day… I’m thinkin’

    Wonder if I can get a realistic estimate on this kind of thing

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It is. I think 80% of people do exactly that, and maybe watch videos.

    I only have that Mac because it was used and cheap and had a good battery time. It slowly became my main machine because it’s "good enough for everything"

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What's complicated?

    Every charger says what max power it has, it's pretty simple.

    The only issue is that cables don't have to be marked, but until 60W pretty much anything will work.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Agreed, this is all only a problem if for some strange reason you're not willing to look at usb-c charger and cable specs that you buy, I have a brick and charger that do 100w, I only buy cables that take 100w ,all my devices require less then 100, and it works every time. Gosh, so hard. Never mind that if you take that very small step, it does work every time, the usb C connector is very robust and reversible, and now I have truly universal charging.

    I like the no charger supplied rule. I can pick my own cool charger.

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