▲ 9 ▼ India’s new tax law raids your cloud (internetfreedom.in) submitted 1 year ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/privacy@programming.dev comment fedilink hide all child comments
[–] FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago (13 children) We all need to rise up and fight this. Later will be too late. permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (12 children) Start with the easy stuff. Get those around you off WhatsApp and Discord. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) Even if we get people to shift to privacy respecting or encrypted apps, the problem still stands. They could just ask you to give access to those services. If you don't, it would come with its own legal challenges. Section 247(1)(ii)–(iii) mandates individuals and businesses to disclose passwords or encryption keys and permits officers to “override the access control” of any device or account. If you don’t hand over your phone passcode or email password on demand, officials can hack into the device. Any refusal is now explicitly punishable as non-compliance. End-to-end encrypted messaging services like WhatsApp or Signal could be forced open during a tax raid. Solving the issue would need to come from challenging the act itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml [S] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) If you scroll down the article you would see that the select committee is shutting down any requests for change with the same set of arguments. The recourse might be to challenge the act in court but that seems unlikely, The public wont really do anything about it, because in their view it doesn't affect them; they fail to see(and are veiled from seeing) the highly probable misuse angle of such far reaching legislation. Bottom line: As long as you don't touch the street dogs you can get away with anything permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) ☹️ I hate that you are right. I really wanted to do something to make a difference, but it's saddening to see no one batting an eye to this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) But you can do something to make a difference, get others to care. How? See this: https://lemmy.world/comment/19227806 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You are right. This is the least I can do. Thanks for the words of encouragement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) They won't know what we're using. If you can't challenge a few apps, you'll never challenge that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Skill issue. If you can't fix this, how will you ever fix that? See part 1: https://lemmy.world/post/35312231 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) This is the way. Make a post. It would help a lot of people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you really think it is feasible to convert people to less convenient alternative? What are you going to do, force them at a gunpoint? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) What are you going to do I've already done it and I never needed force. An app is never convenient when we do not control it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (12 children) Start with the easy stuff. Get those around you off WhatsApp and Discord. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) Even if we get people to shift to privacy respecting or encrypted apps, the problem still stands. They could just ask you to give access to those services. If you don't, it would come with its own legal challenges. Section 247(1)(ii)–(iii) mandates individuals and businesses to disclose passwords or encryption keys and permits officers to “override the access control” of any device or account. If you don’t hand over your phone passcode or email password on demand, officials can hack into the device. Any refusal is now explicitly punishable as non-compliance. End-to-end encrypted messaging services like WhatsApp or Signal could be forced open during a tax raid. Solving the issue would need to come from challenging the act itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml [S] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) If you scroll down the article you would see that the select committee is shutting down any requests for change with the same set of arguments. The recourse might be to challenge the act in court but that seems unlikely, The public wont really do anything about it, because in their view it doesn't affect them; they fail to see(and are veiled from seeing) the highly probable misuse angle of such far reaching legislation. Bottom line: As long as you don't touch the street dogs you can get away with anything permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) ☹️ I hate that you are right. I really wanted to do something to make a difference, but it's saddening to see no one batting an eye to this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) But you can do something to make a difference, get others to care. How? See this: https://lemmy.world/comment/19227806 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You are right. This is the least I can do. Thanks for the words of encouragement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) They won't know what we're using. If you can't challenge a few apps, you'll never challenge that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Skill issue. If you can't fix this, how will you ever fix that? See part 1: https://lemmy.world/post/35312231 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) This is the way. Make a post. It would help a lot of people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you really think it is feasible to convert people to less convenient alternative? What are you going to do, force them at a gunpoint? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) What are you going to do I've already done it and I never needed force. An app is never convenient when we do not control it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) Even if we get people to shift to privacy respecting or encrypted apps, the problem still stands. They could just ask you to give access to those services. If you don't, it would come with its own legal challenges. Section 247(1)(ii)–(iii) mandates individuals and businesses to disclose passwords or encryption keys and permits officers to “override the access control” of any device or account. If you don’t hand over your phone passcode or email password on demand, officials can hack into the device. Any refusal is now explicitly punishable as non-compliance. End-to-end encrypted messaging services like WhatsApp or Signal could be forced open during a tax raid. Solving the issue would need to come from challenging the act itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml [S] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) If you scroll down the article you would see that the select committee is shutting down any requests for change with the same set of arguments. The recourse might be to challenge the act in court but that seems unlikely, The public wont really do anything about it, because in their view it doesn't affect them; they fail to see(and are veiled from seeing) the highly probable misuse angle of such far reaching legislation. Bottom line: As long as you don't touch the street dogs you can get away with anything permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) ☹️ I hate that you are right. I really wanted to do something to make a difference, but it's saddening to see no one batting an eye to this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) But you can do something to make a difference, get others to care. How? See this: https://lemmy.world/comment/19227806 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You are right. This is the least I can do. Thanks for the words of encouragement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) They won't know what we're using. If you can't challenge a few apps, you'll never challenge that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml [S] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) If you scroll down the article you would see that the select committee is shutting down any requests for change with the same set of arguments. The recourse might be to challenge the act in court but that seems unlikely, The public wont really do anything about it, because in their view it doesn't affect them; they fail to see(and are veiled from seeing) the highly probable misuse angle of such far reaching legislation. Bottom line: As long as you don't touch the street dogs you can get away with anything permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) ☹️ I hate that you are right. I really wanted to do something to make a difference, but it's saddening to see no one batting an eye to this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) But you can do something to make a difference, get others to care. How? See this: https://lemmy.world/comment/19227806 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You are right. This is the least I can do. Thanks for the words of encouragement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) ☹️ I hate that you are right. I really wanted to do something to make a difference, but it's saddening to see no one batting an eye to this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) But you can do something to make a difference, get others to care. How? See this: https://lemmy.world/comment/19227806 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You are right. This is the least I can do. Thanks for the words of encouragement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) But you can do something to make a difference, get others to care. How? See this: https://lemmy.world/comment/19227806 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You are right. This is the least I can do. Thanks for the words of encouragement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bergetfew@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You are right. This is the least I can do. Thanks for the words of encouragement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) They won't know what we're using. If you can't challenge a few apps, you'll never challenge that. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Skill issue. If you can't fix this, how will you ever fix that? See part 1: https://lemmy.world/post/35312231 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) This is the way. Make a post. It would help a lot of people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you really think it is feasible to convert people to less convenient alternative? What are you going to do, force them at a gunpoint? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) What are you going to do I've already done it and I never needed force. An app is never convenient when we do not control it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Skill issue. If you can't fix this, how will you ever fix that? See part 1: https://lemmy.world/post/35312231 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) This is the way. Make a post. It would help a lot of people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you really think it is feasible to convert people to less convenient alternative? What are you going to do, force them at a gunpoint? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) What are you going to do I've already done it and I never needed force. An app is never convenient when we do not control it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) This is the way. Make a post. It would help a lot of people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) This is the way. Make a post. It would help a lot of people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Do you really think it is feasible to convert people to less convenient alternative? What are you going to do, force them at a gunpoint? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) What are you going to do I've already done it and I never needed force. An app is never convenient when we do not control it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) What are you going to do I've already done it and I never needed force. An app is never convenient when we do not control it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sims@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Seems like India is being targeted by western propaganda now. Well, I guess the 'friendship' is over then.. permalink fedilink source hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 1 year ago I subscribe to the "The US president has investments in our rival country theory" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 1 year ago I subscribe to the "The US president has investments in our rival country theory" permalink fedilink source parent
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