In the world of presidential health, distrust and speculation run so rampant that even Mr. Trump’s online assurance that he was fine was immediately explained away as part of a cover-up.

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[–] 108 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I mean, I wasn't particularly convinced. but i was PARTICULARLY hopeful.

also, him being alive doesn't mean he hasn't had some sort of medical event, etc.

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    Most likely way to go;

    • FSB Defenestration
    • FSB cyanide injection, Bohdan Stashynsky-style
    • Assassination by foreign power
    • Assassination by domestic freedom-fighter
    • Assassination by debtor
    • Natural causes from dementia.
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  • [+] 8 points 1 year ago (11 children)
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    He has to hold a coalition together to get anything done.

    Vance was a net negative on the campaign and has the charisma of a cummy sock. He'll be the first to get the knife when they come out.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    JD “whatever makes sense” Vance couldnt build a cult following if he tried. He has zero, it not negative, charisma

    Its worth saying he doesnt need one to get into power, but at the same time no one would turn a blind eye to his actions based solely on bias like they do with Trump. He has no chance of placating the MAGA party whatsoever if they turn on him for any reason. Not to mention that everyone knows hes a weird little gremlin, even his supporters

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Nah, he's a weakling specifically chosen by Trump because he's a weakling.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Agreed. Pence didn't get the second run because he showed actual backbone when democracy was actually on the line. Vance is a little bitch boy yes-man.

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  • I think it was more that Pence realized Trump couldn't pull off that coup, so he wasn't gonna stick out his neck for him. If he wasn't VP then, I have no doubt he'd support Trump up until the present day, even if he has the same misgivings all ambitious right wingers have. People like him never allied with Trump because they like him, but because he wins against Democrats and politically destroys rival Republicans.

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    [–] 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Got it all wrong. The internet hoped.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    BlueAnon ran off on a rampage with conspiracy theories.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Qanon conspiracy theories: the Liberals are running a pedophile ring out of one specific pizzeria to harvest adrenochrome to extend their lifespans!!!

    BlueAnon conspiracy theories: a 79 year old man with waning energy and health symptoms has died!!!

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    “There’s always been this wishful-thinking industry around Trump’s health and Trump’s legal woes,” said Mike Rothschild, a journalist and author who studies conspiracy movements. “There’s been this far-left influencer sphere that is constantly pumping up the idea that Trump is about to go to prison or the walls are closing in.”

    Actually pretty sure the fucking assholes who kept chanting "tRuSt tHe pRoCeSs" were the centrist pro-business democrats and the people who thought Merrick Garland wasn't absolutely fucking this all up.

    Further, him deserving to go to prison is why people were fucking hopeful that he would.

    Anyway, at least the idea that can "trust the process" is finally dead and fucking buried where it should have been thirty god damned years ago.

    But seriously, how long is the NYT gonna sanewash this shit and act like Trump isn't an abusive criminal who has successfully abused the system to put himself above the law? Now literally comparing the need to put a criminal like him behind bars and bar him from running for President to fringe conspiracy theories. What a crock of shit.

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  • [+] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The Internet was convinced otherwise.

    No we weren't. I've learned that there is no such thing as good news anymore.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    I wasn’t convinced I was pushing a narrative.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    I wasn't convinced and I don't think the internet was either. Listen, people are a bit desperate for some good news right now. However, I will admit that I was indeed shining and polishing my crab emoji. Just in case.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't think it's so much "believed" as "hoped."

    Specifically, people hoped that the staggeringly dangerous and destructive deranged megalomaniac currently destroying the US had died, since at this point, in a world in which virtually none of the politicians, government officials or journalists who are actually in a position to do anything to at least slow the US's Trump-led sprint to neo-feudalism can be bothered to lift a finger, him dying is about the only hope we billions of ordinary prople have.

    But of course, the NYT is at the forefront of the journalists who can't be bothered to actually demonstrate any principles or integrity, so all we get from them is this bit of sycophantic pabulum.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Not convinced, just feverishly hoping.

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    What even is this article? It’s a rambling history of Trump’s medical woes as some sort of chastisement to “the internet” for hoping he had died? It’s clearly sort of the Times again sucking up to Trump, but in a weird way that doesn’t make sense?

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  • You can't blame people for wanting to have hopes about good things.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Would be great if that changed.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Hope is a powerful thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I mean he sounded like shit when I heard him, and he was almost definitely speaking from a reclined position.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Maybe he was replaced with a robot body double...

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  • I only believe his soul died long ago.

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