How is this not bigger news?

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[–] 1 point 1 year ago
[–] 1 point 1 year ago

Who got killed? Are they behind any legislation one way or the other that would make them targets?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    And it starts...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I'm not sure why you think it's not big news. I've seen a few dozen different news articles posted about it today

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  • [–] 187 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    You know what’s fucked up is that I don’t even have to look. I can tell you right now that the victims in this crime are part of the Democratic party. You know how I know? Because the FBI director and the president are talking about prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law and how violence in America will never be acceptable.

    But if it was the other way around and a Democrat went nuts and killed a Republican senator Donald Trump would be on truth social calling for that person to be hung or stretched or quartered or whatever it is they did to people in the middle ages.

    

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  • [–] 119 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    But if it was the other way around ... Donald Trump would be on truth social calling for that person to be hung...

    Not just that, but he would be demonizing the whole Democrat party, saying how their dangerous rhetoric caused this and the party needs to be outlawed and its leaders arrested.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Even worse, I’m sure when they catch this guy, trump is going to pardon him.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Trump cannot pardon state crimes. Murder is a state crime, not federal.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago*

    My assumption is that if Luigi is getting charged at the federal level for killing one random, rich white guy, this person who has killed two politicians and has a hit list for others, would be charged at the federal level for terrorism. At least I’d expect that in a normal, functional society, which we’re not.

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  • [–] 132 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    This isn't just assassination, it's terrorism designed to scare opponents of Trump from speaking out. The media won't say that, of course, because it's likely the shooter is white.

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  • [–] [S] 60 points 1 year ago*

    Exactly that. Also, don't forget that every chance they get they say "a man posing as a police officer" and they then describe that he was dressed exactly like a cop including a badge and cop car

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's also done on no kings day so we all know what the headline will be. Doesn't seem like a coincidence on reflection.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It was planned to be a distraction so news coverage wouldn't focus on all the protests today. Can't show bigger crowds in rural America than whatever few bootlickers showed up to watch Trump's birthday parade.

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  • [–] 91 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    The details of this story are horrifying. The assassin went to the houses of two different lawmakers in the middle of the night (2am). Dressed as a cop.

    In the dark, the people in each house had no reasonable way to know that the person ringing their doorbell at 2am was not a cop. Presumably he shot whoever came to the door then entered the house and shot the other spouse.

    There's no way the people who were shot could have reasonably prevented being killed

    So, just like the 9/11 hijacking changes everything about how people respond to a hijacking event, this changes everything about answering your door. You see someone dressed as a cop at your door, you don't answer the door. You call 911, then have then identify the name and badge number of the cop at your door and you don't answer the door until 911 acknowledges its a real cop at the door.

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  • [–] 246 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I'd bet anything the police and media response to this is and will be orders of magnitude less than when that healthcare guy got clapped.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Pretty sure they were throwing “assassinated” in the headlines very early on there where this is just a “shooting” even though Tim Walz has already declared it a politically motivated assassination.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    My very first thought was about Luigi and thinking if this guy is found alive he likely won’t have any serious response. It seems they have a suspect but the dude was clearly wearing a mask so idk how they determined that

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  • [–] [S] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Thanks, I was looking the sub and all the top posts I see where about the protests, Israel v Iran, and the orange man's ego parade

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  • [–] 145 points 1 year ago (47 children)

    Anyone want to bets that it was a Nazi who did the shooting?

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    He was dressed as a cop, driving a police car, wearing a blue uniform, and a bulletproof vest.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (17 children)

    Is he a cop then? The cop car part is confusing otherwise. Uniform etc. not so much.

    Edit: I see elsewhere that the car was disguised too

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    “Disguised” we’ve willingly made police cars so obscure they don’t stand out anymore. Here in Maine every car could be a cop car.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There's one in my town that is black. With black writing on it that says police. The only way to see the text is to see the difference in sheen between the paint and the writing.

    it should be very illegal

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, cops call this ghost marking. They do it to skirt around the laws regarding marked vs unmarked vehicles. Unmarked vehicles have stricter requirements, so cops ghost mark their vehicles and say “look, they’re technically not unmarked, so they don’t have to follow all of those stricter rules.”

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah, every time they get a new upgrade over here it’s even harder to detect. But it’s part of the uniform. Should stand out and be hard to replicate.

    Start calling 911 when you get pulled over to confirm it’s a real officer and really just make it a headache for him and they’ll go back to normal.

    “Hi I’m just calling to verify this unmarked pulling me over is a real officer” they will get the picture after a couple of thousand of those

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    In Minnesota?

    Cop cars are very distinct. Big white and black SUVs with guard rails and big ass lights. They look like they're going to run you over fun. I call em intimidation transports.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This isn't completely accurate. I live in South Saint Paul and some of our police have Ford Explorers with no visible light bars and dark blue lettering on black paint.

    I've seen state patrol make stops on 494 between the Wakota bridge and 35E in dark blue unmarked chargers.

    They're relatively new I think but that same trend of low-profile police cars has started here now too.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I think I've seen an unmarked cop SUV in St Paul before, maybe it was one of yours, or maybe it was this fucker?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm in South Saint Paul so if you were in Saint Paul it was a different one since that's a different city.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah but I see other cities cops around once in a while, they've possibly got business at the county and state offices.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    We have three different colors of Ford escapes with very discreet light bars. They look like every other fucking Ford escape on the road or whatever those stupid SUVs are. So every Karen looks like a cop and every cop looks like a Karen.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah I've been looking at them since @LilBOkChoy said something. They must be newer. They are quite literally impossible to see.

    Seems appropriate for a police state though. China must be jelly of them

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It’s just funny watching the citizens make their cars more like cop cars too. I shit my pants a little bit speeding and then notice it’s not a cop riding my ass it’s just granny trying to race to an early grave

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Qualified immunity coming in 3, 2, 1....

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Tell me you don't know what qualified immunity is without telling me you don't know that qualified immunity is.

    Edit: Seems like a lot of people don't know what qualified immunity is.

    Qualified immunity means a cop can't be personally liable in civil litigation for legal actions taken while doing their job.

    It has nothing to do criminal prosecution when they break the law. It basically just means you have to sue the police department, not the cop.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Tell me you didn't get the joke without telling me.

    Qualified immunity

    A significant amount of criticism contends that qualified immunity allows police brutality to go unpunished.[6] Legal researchers Amir H. Ali and Emily Clark, for instance, have argued that "qualified immunity permits law enforcement and other government officials to violate people's constitutional rights with virtual impunity".[45] Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor has noted a "disturbing trend" of siding with police officers using excessive force with qualified immunity,[46] describing it as "sanctioning a 'shoot first, think later' approach to policing".

    The joke being that the suspect was an offer who showed up, claimed that their life was in danger, and shot everyone to death. The officer will then use qualified immunity as a defence to an extrajudicial killing.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Right, but the joke is based on the misconception that qualified immunity means immunity from prosecution, which is false.

    Spreading misinformation is always bad.

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  • [–] [S] 63 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Those where in Europe, they have since rebranded themselves to wearing red hats

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Some of them call themselves Nazis.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    Boycott RHEL!

    wait, what? Really? Oh..

    This just in: This may not be related to RHEL

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    As someone who works for Red Hat, I really wish it would have been any other color that Trump chose.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Yeah, trends in politics and culture really shafted the brand.

    • Nothing wrong about red hats if it wasn't for Maga.
    • Nothing wrong with fedoras if it wasn't for 4chan incels 15 years ago.

    Now I'm curious if it'd be possible to rebrand to GreenBeanie. It has a nice ring to it.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I mean, you’re now owned by IBM who did help the Nazi’s… seems like it’s come full circle!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well, if you're going to start listing the US firms that helped Nazi Germany, we're going to be here all day.

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Reporting in from Minnesota: State law enforcement is now telling everybody "Do not show up to No Kings Day Events"

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Sen. Walz posted on Bluesky for people to not go to protests and there were 400 comments of mostly people saying they were going anyways. Was nice to see.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Walz is governor. His statement is intentional. He needs to be seen as "giving good advice".

    He knows it won't stop anyone. Just like during the George Floyd protests. He knows what he's doing.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Thank you for this comment. I live in Minnesota and expect that if they believe there's a safety concern this is what they should be saying.

    Of course we're still going to go but it's only right for our representatives to make sure we, as Minnesotans, can make that decision with full understanding of the safety risks.

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  • Some people will get busted up and arrested if not worse. We'd all be safe and sound just sitting at home, watching TV and flipping through tiktok, for some time, until we can't breathe, we're forced out of our homes because we can't afford them or we're in the way of a golf course, we lose our kids because we told them a man can love another man, we can't go anywhere because every road is busted or costs money to use, our profession becomes non-existent from AI doing everything, and we die of cancer because health insurance is "our own responsibility" as is navigating insurance bureaucracy.

    Yeah, a nice sitcom would hit the spot.

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    [–] 60 points 1 year ago

    the slain lawmaker as State Rep. Melissa Hortman of Brooklyn Park and her husband, Mark, while state Sen. John Hoffman of Champlin and his wife, Yvette, were injured. Both lawmakers were members of the Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party. [...] The assailant, who is still at large, allegedly impersonated a police officer.

    My support and sympathy to the families. Absolutely no surprise at any of that news.

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