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Trump Administration in Talks to Take a 10% Stake in Intel (www.bloomberg.com)
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[–] 3 points 1 year ago

Not seeing how this fundamentally changes anything. Either 18A or 14A are viable for third party foundry services or they are not.

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Well, that settles it. I guess Intel really is doomed.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    So..

    Nationalization? Why do we have to buy this shitty company?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Its a fucking chip maker. They had some major issues with raptor lake. Sucks to suck?

    Sure. But its not like they were always on top. Line goes up/ line goes down. Shit happens. It doesn't warrant a bailout whatsoever. I mean fuck we didn't bail out AMD when they were a bad joke.

    A way smarter move would be to give that money to AMD to build a drop-in/ open source CUDA replacement.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Intel still operates a foundry. My understanding this is the actual national security interest along with all of that IP.

    The foundry in Israel? Considering the literal decades they have had server-side dominance, which is just creeping down now, Intel should have had no problem keeping up. Their approach to monolithic dies bit the dust when 2NM has basically failed. They just can't compete with AMD's architecture, because their design philosophy basically required Moore's law to hold. I mean they dropped 100 billion on that. 10 billion isn't going to change that.

    I'm mostly arguing that what we really could use is more competition in the GPU/ CUDA space. I think intel should just struggle through this.

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    Intel had issues with 14nm, extremely massive issues with 10nm/Intel 7 and then issues with Intel 4, Intel 3, 20A and 18A.

    There's only Intel, Samsung and TSMC left for leading-edge fabrication. Samsung and Intel are both struggling, SMIC might catch up at some point, but China has to replicate the whole supply chain and tech domestically due to sanctions. There's a real chance we end up with a TSMC monopoly and that's the critical issue.

    The design side seems to fare better, but I'd argue there's more competition there anyways, so Intel isn't as critical in this regard.

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    • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Grifters gonna grift

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I was gonna say, as an isolated act, this seems good and also moves things a millimeter further from laissez-faire capitalism. Returns on investment could be used to help fund government operations. Having said that, if things keep going the way they have been, returns will more likely be used indirectly to displace some of the tax burden on the ultra wealthy.

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    • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    No one: Literally no one: Not a single American soul: That's communism!

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    [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Literally seizing the means of productions! Interesting turn of events.

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