There is a recent desant of Russian trolls attacking Ukraine, with some of them even blatantly saying they support Putin and some others trying to put into doubt evidence of Russian crimes (kidnapping children etc.)

I have been banned from world by @little_cow@lemmy.world for calling one of them out. Also both of my comments, the one in the screenshot and another one where I explain to another user that he is arguing with paid Russian troll have been removed.

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[–] 44 points 1 year ago

YDI

Clear violation of the rules regardless of whether they are a paid troll or not. It doesnt matter.

Use the report button next time.

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  • [–] 75 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Accusing a user of being a paid troll account is against the rules in most instances, even if you somehow have strong evidence for it.

    It's an unfalsifiable claim and is frequently used as a way to harass another user over a disagreement.

    YDI.

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  • [+] [S] -30 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

    It is enough to look at this user commenting history to substantiate the claim.

    If you see a nazi, say "nazi"

    If you see a Russian troll, say "Russian troll".

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Like I said, its not about having evidence or not. It's a disingenuous way of harassing someone for having an opinion you disagree with.

    If the opinion is a rule-breaking one, then report it. If it isn't, find a more constructive way to deal with your disagreement.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Too many people (myself included) learned to focus on the person, instead of the idea.

    That leads to sophist arguments ("you're a troll"), rather than searching for the truth that lies somewhere between different viewpoints.

    It's not easy to keep in mind and to find ways to stay on the subject.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    not to mention if you look at the comment history and you see nazi or troll or such then just block.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    No, if you see a nazi or troll call it out so that administration can remove it and keep the community healthy. Do not turn a blind eye to a fucking nazi bar.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Im sorry but im not that nice. I want to block him till the administration deals with his account and he makes an alt I have to then block.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    The issue is, you just broke rules too.

    Next time.

    Just report him or say something more civil. But honestly if you see a rule breaker just report him.

    It's like kinda like real life you don't deal with criminals the justical system in this case mods and admins do.

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  • Brother, this isnt the sludge at the bottom of the internet, this is the hardened nastiness under the sludge. These people are the highschool drop outs that disappeared from everyday society. Their weight became so obese they couldn't face life and they started collecting "disability" because their weight/gluttony got so out of control.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    The community rules:

    • Rule 5 - Keep it Civil - It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative).

    You deserved it, you broke the community rules by accusing someone of being a bad faith actor, which isn't nice.

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  • [+] [S] -17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    accusing someone

    It is not an accusation if it is based on facts.

    which isn't nice

    🤦

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    It is not an accusation if it is based on facts.

    This statement is simply false.

    Accusations can be backed up by facts. They're still accusations. Facts can make accusations more convincing, but they don't stop being accusations when facts are provided.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    What facts it's based on?

    Sir, this is lemmy, we already have a lot of users who sounds like paid trolls, this platform is too small to be targeted by some psyop, I would guess they are simply stupid/delusional/tankie than to be a paid russian agent.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It is not an accusation if it is based on facts.

    Your comment was against the rules of the community. Use the report button, bring it to fediverselore, whatever, but that doesnt change the very simple fact here - you broke the rules.

    Thats the only context that matters relative to your ban.

    Edit: wad/was. I wasn't talking about Doom, I promise.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Looks like YDI. Badjacketing like that only breeds paranoia

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  • I am not a .world fan, but you def deserved it. YDI

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    YDI, you broke the rules. Not everyone you disagree with is paid.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    How ignorant and close minded are you to post this...

    You disagree with someone over an inherently subjective topic and then harrass them. So the mods ban you. Then you proceed to do the same to the mod by posting this.

    No one is allowed to have a different opinion than you?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    Omg he got banned due to my report lol

    For anyone who bothers to read this, @FelixCress@lemmy.world harrassed me for difference in opinion about geopolitical issues. He then proceeded to harass me by following me around and downvoting all my comments and replied to my comments which didn't involve him. He also used multiple accounts/community (which he admitted to) which then did the same.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I also reported his comments. But mainly since I was checking his profile as I recall agreeing with me on a few topics. Broken clock and what not.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    He has so many posts in this community. Looks like he is used to getting banned and then throwing a hissy fit.

    Is it possible to check other user's mod log?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    If you click on the 3 dots below a post or a comment, there is a mod log. $USER moderation history is what you want.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I think it is not available in Voyager app. What do you use lemmy?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I just use the mobile interface via my web browser, I don't use an app personally. I apologize that I couldn't help ya.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I could not find it in a browser too. I am confused now. Anyways, thanks for helping out

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I temporarily banned you for violating the rules of the community more then once

    Please use this time to reflect, read, and pray for you have clearly lost your way

    News communities are very important to the discussion of events which impact many people lives

    When you make these sort of comments the quality of the post is degraded

    In addition the rules are clear for all to read

    I will pray for the malice which poisons your heart against the fellow man to leave your body and mind

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Since you are here mod, make sure to check how he brigades others (or maybe his alt accounts) to downvote and comment on a single target. He has admitted that he posts my content to other communities for such behaviour (the comment has since been deleted by mods). I have some names but I don’t want to take names without proof.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    The fact you belive that one must be a troll to support russia is a great evidence everyone is better if you keep away from political discussion. You ate too much propaganda, maybe detox from capitalist press and learn a bit about history?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    If you’re supporting Russia’s invasion of a sovereign country and all the war crimes that go along with it you’re as bad as someone who’s supporting Israel’s genocide of the Palestine people.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    Damn you guys reach new levels of dumb every passing day

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Which part of what I said is dumb?

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    The part where you side with imperialism in the case of ukraine and then against it in the case of palestine.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I’m siding with small countries being illegally invaded by larger counties as the large country is committing war crimes against the smaller one.

    I’m being very consistent.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    You are in the kindergarden of politics, but yes, you are kindergarden level very consistent

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Says the dipshit who’s political understanding boils down to doing the opposite of the US even when it means supporting imperialism and genocide.

    Critical support is for brain dead fucks.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    side with imperialism

    Ohh i didn't know the definition of imperialism is getting invaded by another country.

    Ohh remember when the time India become imperialist when British Empire colonized them? I sure do!

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    If you are able to read, id suggest lenins book in the subject

    Ps: you guys reach new levels of dumb over the course of hours

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Uh huh, i don't care about lentils book or your "huhu i'm smart yur dum" comment, i just wanna know what do you mean by being on the imperialist side, so do explain to us dum dum why siding with ukraine is imperialism since you're so smart.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Ukraine fights under NATO orders. Who pays, give the orders, provide military equipment and intel for Ukraine in this conflict? As burguerlanders use to say "follow the money"

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Uh huh, so why are they provide support to Ukraine? And what is this conflict about?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    It’s been about regime change, Balkanization, and plundering of Russia for a very long tme^1^3.

    And all the US support is lend-lease, which the Ukrainian working class will be paying back for generations^5.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Uh huh uh huh, so why would you say "plundering of Russia" when Russian force are the one that moving west? Who started the current conflict?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Who started the current conflict?

    • NATO has been expanding eastward since the Clinton administration, despite promises made to Russia that it would never move “one inch eastward” during the G.H.W. Bush administration.
    • The US couped Ukraine in 2014 (and in 2004).
    • The Banderite fascists, with support from the US & Ukrainian governments, started their ethnic cleansing campaign of eastern & southern Ukraine in 2014.
    • Ukraine and NATO states broke the both the August 2014 Minsk I agreement and the February 2015 Minsk II agreement, and have admitted that they never intended to honor them in the first place.
    • Biden publicly assured NATO membership to Zelensky in December 9, 2021.
    • The US rebuffed Russia’s December 17, 2021 draft treaties.
    • Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022.
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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    sees lemmy.ml

    I feel like I could sleepwalk into your response. Practically a meme.

    Anyway, OP deserves it, but wow you leaned in hard on "falling for western propaganda" or whatever. OP deserves it for claiming someone is a troll or bot or something. How is your comment that different from theirs?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There is a recent desant of Russian trolls attacking Ukraine

    Attacking Ukraine with what, opinions on social media? People who disagree with you aren’t being paid by US adversaries. Russiagate was a hoax.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    PTB. I'm not a huge fan of lib russophobia and I know it's against the rules to be "uncivil"... But civilization is a racist myth and tone policing supports hegemony. Let the people make their jokes.

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