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to no ones surprise. their website always looked like a bronze age mindset tiktok edit

We have people doing a Clockwork Orange to AI models before GTA6.

Oh wow, they let MechaHitler do the fact-checking? Guess it's guaranteed to tell the right narrative, then... /s

yikes. there's so many wtf's here i don't know where to begin.

Eww.. All respect for nous-research lost ! Anyone following western sh*t behaviour in the world knows that 'western values' are ideological propaganda and a narrative weapon to hit other countries with. Perplexity also tried to propagandise an early deepseek to the 'correct' western anti-china narrative. The west = misinformation! Disgusting that nous–research either let them selves be bought by the western oligarchy, or actually believe in that simplistic and evil narrative. Disappointment never the less..

a post-trained Qwen3.8-27B model that reinforces Western values.

If you think this is good in any way, you're insane. I don't want models trained to reinforce any values. Fuck off with the brainwashing already. Jesus, what a fucking dystopian world we live in.

Not to mention, if you think Western values are better, I suggest you go to a MAGA rally some day.

Using Grok as judge is crazy

Let me just copy the final section before we then all dive into the supporting evidence.

Takeaways

What we take from this project is not that one 27B model now answers questions that it wouldn't before. It is that the bias layer in a Chinese-aligned model is shallow. It is applied late, it is applied thin, and fifty million tokens of carefully chosen supervision removes it without disturbing anything underneath. The values in any open model are only ever one fine-tune away. The users of a model deserve optionality in which values they work with, and everyone, including researchers, users and the American public, deserves high quality, open-weight models whose values can be objectively tested and adjusted.

American values