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[–] 6 points 5 days ago (1 child)

If you want a Christian state or an Islamic state (or a Jewish state, or really any kind of religious state) you're going to want it to be liberal with secular values. If it's not, then it's going to have discontent, dissent and eventually be overthrown for violating the social contract.

You might think you belong to a popular religion, but in fact, you belong to a popular religious identity a group that is full of widely varying opinions about what passages of holy text are important and which ones should be disregarded. (🐪🧵💰) Everyone who you think is part of your congregation actually disagrees with you vehemently.

And when these issues receive air in a sectarian state -- say when it's time to base policy on religious values -- the knives come out. A lot of knives. History of religion teems with so many knives.

After enough knives, some of us figured that maybe we should be allowed to agree to disagree. My liberty is more important than your disagreement with it, and your liberty is more important than my disagreement with it. Everyone should have rights. Even blacks. Even Jews. Even immigrants. Even trans folk. Even furries.

And yeah, some Muslims are fanatical and seem on the verge of violence. So are some Christians. So are some non-religious ideologues. White supremacy, for example, doesn't really have any faith attached to it. Neither does capitalism.

Heck, keep dunking on the common folk, and even liberals will start gunning (or knifing) for universal civil rights.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    the cops are called 'human resources' now?

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