Marco Rubio pulls plug on traditional photo op at meeting of foreign ministers after about one-third of countries threaten boycott

The traditional “family photo” to open the G20 foreign ministers’ meeting has been abruptly cancelled in the US after a host of nations – including Australia and the UK – refused to appear beside the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov.

The US secretary of state, Marco Rubio, pulled the plug after several European officials, the UK and Australia made it known they would boycott or walk out of the snapshot that often kicks off such international gatherings.

Rubio still opened the talks in Atlanta with an appeal for unity on the issues that threaten international security and trade.

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[–] 44 points 1 week ago* (3 children)

To be frank. I'm surprised that they were willing to be seen with us.

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  • [+] -40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    They got their eyes on the prize.

    "All pipelines lead to Rome."

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  • [–] 28 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    Five eyes are now blinded by corruption from the magic massive pedo state

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    US running ops out of australia. Building bases as we speak

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    What other option do we have?

    EU/NATO isn't an option for us, Europe will never ever lift a finger or risk a life for Australia. Despite us going to war to free you twice.

    So we're stuck with USA.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    You are a commonwealth country. Elect leaders that want to forge ties with the UK ad EU. There are loads of us down there already.

    Is Aistralia at enough risk to make it okay to be doing what you are doing for the US? To allow them to interfere with your elections?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Theyve been interfering since the CIA abducted Harold Holt and got Gough Whitlam removed from office. The damage is long done, and i wish i knew any way at all of fixing it.

    The Greens refusing to provide military support to Ukraine, on top of Israeli shitbags slandering them, is really cutting into the only viable anti-US party we have.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Ties mean little if those ties will never result in a defense pact.

    Europe won't ever, no matter what, come to help us. France has made it quite clear multiple times, from the De Gaulle era through to today. US originally wanted Australia in NATO, it was De Gaulle who said no.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    They say no to everything, they blocked Ireland joining the EU too. They are not all of Europe.

    Help with what though, what military issues do you have that are not tied to being in with the US

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    No, it isn’t okay and no, at this stage probably not. I’m pretty clear, myself; ivexwanted us to backtrack from being a US base for years.

    Their point stands, though; Europe will never lift a finger to aid Australia if there was a military issue. Their Americans already have, which is why we have such a close military bond. It helps to understand how we are as people; if you help us, you’re a mate forever.

    Again, the points stand; Europe would never aid us and we’ve aided it twice.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago

    Who invited ruzzia? Trump? It’s like inviting a skunk to a garden party!

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  • [–] 34 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    They should be refusing to do anything with the US. The US is just as much the enemy as Russia is. Bunch of double standard hypocrites.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    A lot of these nations are trying their best to simultaneously hold the door shut during these Trump years but keep a foot in the door to mend relations thereafter and should sensible Democrats return to power. Still, the volatility of US politics means these nations are forced to keep the US at arms-length because even if we elect another Obama (perceived extremely well by these nations) like El-Sayed, AOC, Talarico, etc. who's to say in another 4 years we won't elect another Trump... ? My guess is they will now expect systemic changes to prevent another Trump-like candidate hijacking the system, which is of course mostly dreaming as that would require major legislation and outright constitutional amendments. Tall order.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago

    The United States have established that they're incapable of stable relations. In world politics a decade is a short time and agreements are expected to last much longer than that. But the States have established that 180° turns can be expected every four years when sane presidents get elected and every couple weeks when it's someone like Trump.

    Living that down will require decades of very diligent attention to consistency and diplomacy.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I get that but. It's still a shit strategy. Even if we elect Democrat house and Senate, followed by a Democrat president in 28. None of them should normalize relations till Democrats take basic steps to hold people accountable for what's happened. And put actual rules and regulations with teeth in place to stop this from happening in the future. Not just norms and traditions that can be ignored. So realistically never trust us again.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    And the corporations who own most of these politicians (democrats included) don’t want the changes that need to be made, as those changes will limit their influence. And they like the Trumps of this world who they can manipulate to give their industry whatever they want.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I tend to agree, but man... It sucks because that was exactly what Putin (and possibly Xi) desired to happen and have succeeded in that with Krasnov.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    Xi was plenty involved as well. But this needs to be hung around the neck of every person in the GOP from now until the heat death of the universe.

    Regardless what you think of the US and it's history. Which for the record, it's bad mmm'kay? But if you are someone that wants to see Americans succeed and the country improve. The GOP have actively been empowering and enabling the enemies of the people/country. For generations. Realistically we need to abolish any government at the federal level and anything close to that. But I don't see that happening. So we need to do the next best thing. Taking this as a mandate to strengthen, improve and expand public education and services. So this doesn't happen again in the future at the hands of an uneducated populace. None of this likely would have happened without the attacks to education etc.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    Yeah the optics of just taking a G20 photo with US and Russia would have been pretty overt and blatant lol.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    How many are willing to take photos with Trump, or Netanyahu?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 week ago (23 children)

    Why was Russia even invited this event? Oh right. He owns Trump and the entire U.S. administration.

    Enjoy your Iranian Russian diesel folks and bring on the absolute utter wrong side of history.

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  • [+] -36 points 1 week ago (22 children)

    If Putin has something on Trump then more power to him. So does Mamdani, apparently. What's the problem?

    I've seen your "right side" of history. No thanks.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    If you were smart enough to know how dumb you are you'd be embarrassed.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    Because giving missiles to Nazis is "smart".

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  • [–] -2 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    Thanks, Professor of Nazis Apologia 101.🤓☠️👍

    ...something.... something.... doomed to repeat History Channel?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (8 children)

    Lol. This guy is on the side of the Wagner group

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    Wagner Group doesn't even exist anymore. Dude tried to coup Putin with a truck load of NATO cash and got shot out of the sky. 👍

    Every Russian opposition figure you settle on turns out to be Nazis, from Pussy Riot to Navalny to "Russian Volunteer Corps".

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (6 children)

    You mean like Rusich and the Russian imperial legion?

    It must be embarrassing being you. Pussy Riot aren't even Nazis. I challenge you to find a source that isn't Russia propaganda that says so.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Bro. They post swastikas. You can say what you about freedom of speech and whether they should be prosecuted for it, but Pussy Riots are Nazis.

    Yes, the Russian Imperial Legion are fascists. Fuck yeah, they are.

    They're the opposition to Putin, not his supporters.

    Your Western liberals' golden child Navalny marches in their rallies. He called Muslims "vermin and cockroaches". He's a Nazi.

    You're only proving my points. Thanks.👍

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (4 children)

    They're the opposition to Putin, not his supporters.

    While fighting for him.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 week ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    Says the guy who says Pussy Riot are Nazis.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    It's not about the charges necessarily at all. It's a thin veneer covering their underlying fascism, and it's projected deflection for them throwing the word around against Putin and Lukashenko. Their boyfriends don't pretend at all. Dmitry "Enteo" Tsorionov is absolute scum. Read about him for yourself.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Ukraine being run by the alt-right is a meme, Ukraine was being run by alt-right nationalists shortly after the revolution.

    Then they lost the second election when Zelenskyj got to power. Zelenskyj speaks Russian (or at least spoke), and your claim is he's an Ukrainian nationalist? Cmon mate, no ones that stupid.

    Zelenskyj was the peace offering, Putin was still full of greed and went forth with the full-scale invasion. Putin however is an imperialistic nationalist wanting all power to belong to him, he's everything you claim to hate. Yet you're gobbling his propaganda.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Bullshit.

    A coup is a coup is a coup is a coup. Maidan was no more a revolution than if Jan6 had succeeded.

    Zelensky campaigned and won on the promise of peace through the Minsk Agreement. He said that America was trying to weaken Russia at the expense of Ukrainians.

    Then he watched helplessly as the Azov Brigade refused his orders to stop shelling civilians in the Donetsk City Center, precipitating the annexation by Russia.

    Zelensky is now just a kapo stooge who will never outlive his usefulness to his Banderite handlers.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Maidan was not a coup, it was a popular uprising. It was a mix of all political directions which stood against corruption.

    Globally there's a tendency for alt-right groups to be better organised, often through football ultras. Which is why they tend to get power after q popular uprising, while defaced/leaderless leftist groups tends to be run over in the following power vacuums.

    You could definitely argue Jair Bolsonaro got to power due to primarily leftist run protests. You could argue occupy wall street was the prelude for Trump and let's not get started on the countries follow the Arab Spring. All of these are correlated. All of them sees right wing or authoritarian figures win the immediately following power struggle

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  • [–] -4 points 1 week ago

    Bullshit. The CIA assisted Arab monarchies and dictatorships just like it assisted Banderites in Ukraine.

    A coup is a coup a coup is a coup. The coup was led by Svoboda, a fascist party that would, could never win an election.

    Popularity is determined by something called elections, not fascist mobs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Do you have anything to substantiate your claim about Mamdani?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    What is your theory? He just thinks Zohran is that sexy?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    The guy who keeps talking about men's bodies is pretty likely to find Mamdani quite charming.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 week ago

    All true. But more likely Mamdani has the keys to NYC's receipts on Trump's corruption, just like he had receipts on the WTC cancer coverup.

    FDR blackmailed then millionaires after their Businessmen Coup attempt so as to get his New Deal legislation passed. 👍

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    It’s still so weird to me that a super power like the US acts so submissively to Russia. It’s like a South Park’s sketch, but without the joke

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    You mean they were willing to have their pictures taken with the USA representative?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    Another Helsinki 2018 repeat. Kudos to the countries who decided not be photographed with the Muscovite losers.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Is Russia even in the top 20 by GDP? I know they weren't one of the richest when they were in te G8 or whatever, kicked out after Ukraine.

    Their economy sucks, they are fully industrialized but can't even build their own military gear, scrapping components from consumer goods to make missiles and such like saddamm hussein back around 2000 when he was rumoured to by buying up all the playstations to use for guided missiles.

    I digress though, Russia has bad leadership, always has really, so they never met their potential. Only oil and mining and such is really paying out for them last I heard.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    yeah. let's focus on the "issues that threaten international security and trade". Fucking let's.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    They didnt want to be photographed with any US politicians either.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    I think if midterms weren't so close, the US delegation would've still proceeded as yet another example of US leaning into BRICS.

    I loved that the other nations did this because it was a statement for themselves, and forced the US into bad light.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    I don't even know why we even bother. China has the most coal power plants of any country by 5x-6x. They have like 1,200, India is second with like 230 and the US is third with like 215. They've opened 50+ last year alone, the US hasn't opened one since 2019 even with Trump pushing coal.

    China spends a metric shit ton on propaganda (especially TicTok) to make you think they're green.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    Though China isn't there yet, the share contributed by coal is declining. The reason solar panels have gotten as cheap as they are is thanks to Chinese production.

    Just because they aren't making the greatest visible strides yet, they would appear to be gearing up for a big shift. If their push for electric cars is anything to go by, they would appear capable of committing to change.

    Meanwhile America and Europe are dragging their feet.
    Just because they aren't there yet, doesn't mean we should give up.
    Just because you see someone else littering, doesn't mean it's all useless and you might as well not bother with bins anymore.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    China has produced more Nuclear power plants than the entire world combined. They have installed more solar than the entire world combined. They have installed more hydro than the entire world combined. Yes, they have a lot of coal as well. Because they are simulataniously trying to raise the standard of living for 1.4 billion people, while meeting their climate goals which are far more aggressive than any other nation.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago*

    China is among the greatest polluters but it is also by a long shot the largest builder of renewable energy plants (solar, wind, you name it). The US on the other side is also among the greatest polluters, and there is also construction of renewable power sources but it is against the opposition from DC. The administration is not even indifferent, it is actively hostile to such projects, trying to prevent them.

    China isn't the good guy here but the definitely have invested a lot in reducing the impact of their industrial rise on air quality. That can be seen also by how dramatically air quality has improved in many large Chinese cities.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    This of course takes place at a trump resort.

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