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Pro-Kremlin bloggers are warning that Russia’s centralized digital economy could collapse because the country is not prepared for the “data center war” it started, according to posts translated by the pseudonymous independent researcher ChrisO_wiki. The Russian commentators also suggested that Ukraine’s decentralized digital services could prove more resilient than Russia’s system if the countries continue trading such blows.

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The Russian milblogger writing under the name Ratio Militaris warned that Yandex’s hypercentralized digital ecosystem had become a wartime weakness for Russia, in a post translated by ChrisO_wiki:

Yandex and the digital ecosystem it created that had long been one of Russia’s advantages compared to even Western countries, has proven to be a weak link—including, and even primarily, due to hyper-centralization—both at the market level, where Yandex had become a powerful monopolist, and at the level of specific infrastructure solutions, where the entire power of the information giant was concentrated in a few (the exact number is no secret, but perhaps inappropriate to specify) large nodes—those aforementioned data centers.

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Russian companies like Yandex will also have a hard time establishing infrastructure backup systems outside of Russia to provide additional wartime resiliency. That is partly because of the “Sovereign Internet Law” passed by the Russian parliament and signed into law by President Vladimir Putin in 2019.

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By comparison, Ukraine has a much more decentralized digital ecosystem consisting of smaller data centers. It has also taken steps to build out backup infrastructure, including moving some equipment and networks underground or outside the country.

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Meanwhile, Russians may be waiting up to six months until Yandex can replace damaged data center equipment, according to an unnamed IT expert interviewed by Russian newspaper Kommersant.

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[–] 23 points 3 weeks ago

From now on, in any war, datacenters will be taken out first

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    As the Dutch say...

    Wie een kuil graaft voor een ander valt er zelf in.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I'm curious to see how much damage was done to those data centers. Did the whole thing burn down, are only some crucial elements shutdown and most importantly, will the compute units be recyclable? Usually they have pretty effective fire supression systems. But they're probably not designed to withstand bombings.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    The pictures looked pretty ugly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTJGhuWWnGo (right at the start) for Sasova. https://youtu.be/L6FMWTKk8W0?t=1287 for satellite image - half of it is completely gone, and the rest is probably not useable anymore after the fire with all the particulate all over the sensitive equipment, which will just short it out when they get power again, if they haven't already.

    Edit: here a quick screenshot:

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Not too shabby. I guess they'll have to test the rest, it's high enough value to test each individual graphics card etc

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah, but i can clearly remember a LAN party back in the 2000s where my girlfriend at the time had the bright idea of burning anti-mosquito-candles indoor because we were under siege - it caused a monitor and 2 power brick failures within 24 hours. And this stuff is a lot more sensitive, and the fire was causing a lot more crap in the air.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    On one hand, Slava Ukraini.

    But on the other, online piracy is gonna be a bit more difficult for a while.

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    [–] 46 points 3 weeks ago

    Well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions

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  • [–] 30 points 3 weeks ago

    When a data center goes up in smoke, it's sort of moving to the cloud isn't it?

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    During this digital collapse, maybe the surveilance state also loose some control.

    Time to rise up against your opressors maybe.

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  • The problem with bulk collection is that the only reasonable way to do it is distributed collection and storage. The interception boxes are colocated in the local ISP offices and a lot of the data tends (at least in leaked systems) to get stored there not in centralized DCs.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    Seems pretty typical of the Russian mindset, no?

    They escalate, threaten nuclear armageddon if the Ukrainians retaliate, the Ukrainians retaliate, and the Russians get caught with their pants down.

    I’m not sure if the (obvious) blowback of Russia’s escalatory moves is being measured into their decisions: they seem to be caught off-guard every single time this happens.

    Which is worrying because it demonstrates a lack of strategic and tactical insight that can only lead to more escalation. The Ukrainians are right in this respect: Russia will only stop, if it is forced to stop.

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    [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    The kremlin clown show continues.

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