Reading Barry Lopez's book "Of Wolves and Men":

[...] disadvantage. The important thing to bear in mind is that generally wolves do not overrun the prey population and kill it out, although they have been known to do so, just as they have, extraordinary as it seems, practiced a kind of fallow-field farming by not killing deer in certain parts of their territories for four or five years, letting the prey population recover there.

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[–] 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think he got his fiction mixed up with reality, wolves don't live very long; this would be half of their lifespan.

They could very well be leaving an area alone because there's less of their favorite prey there. How would you determine their motivation?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Wolf science needs more scrutiny on its claims, ever since the alpha male paper which did an incredible amount of damage to society.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    That or we come out with a bunch of fake claims about wolves which would improve society, were they to be applied to people

    I know, I know, that’s an insult to science, but how cool would it be if Joe Rogan started spreading the idea that the wolves in a pack survive longer when they share resources more evenly? Or that “lone wolves” do best when they’re cordial with nearby packs? Maybe even that packs formed by genetically diverse wolves outperform homogeneous packs, even if the individual wolves are stronger in the less diverse groups?

    I’m being mostly sarcastic here, because I really do value honest research, but it’s a nice thought.

    Of course, we already have chimps and bonobos, who are basically ideal proxies for mostly warlike and mostly peaceful humans, respectively, and it hasn’t made us any less violent.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago

    This book directly debunks all of that stuff, but I don't know enough to judge the author's other claims. Not sure where to turn, to be honest. I thought I was already doing my due diligence by reading this book 😭

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    To me it sounds like they moved to richer areas where it was easier to find suitable prey.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Fallow-field farming doesn't seem like a good analogy at all here. Leaving a field fallow allows other things to grow in the field which then provide nutrients for the crop you grow after re-sowing. This is just waiting for the population to recover. That would be more like not harvesting as frequently, rather than not sowing as frequently.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Interesting if true.

    Really makes me feel the one quote from The Matrix where Agent Smith calls humans a disease for constantly moving to one area, consuming all the resources in said area and moving on.

    In comparison, animals are so much more considerate.

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