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[–] 147 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

The drop correlates with the time reddit locked down old reddit from accessing anonymously/without logging in to avoid AI scraping. Reddit themselves did this.

EDOT: And OpenAI also changed how the web search works; https://www.forbes.com/sites/gabrielalinzainescu/2026/08/20/reddit-nearly-vanishes-from-chatgpt-citations-after-openai-search-change/

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Even the normal Reddit site locks up after a few seconds if you're not logged in. I'm still happy to kill time on msoutlookit while I'm at work, but follow any links to the main site and it locks you out pretty quickly. I imagine even that will be gone too soon.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It's nothing to do with that. Reddit is blocking AI searches because it's contract with OpenAI expired last month.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    OpenAI would not have been scraping old ui?

    Also most reddit content has long since been injested. No need to visit your http site anymore

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    They actually did use old reddit, as confirmed by reddit itself, as confirmed by massive drop after the change. It was simply far easier to scrape old reddit (pre-rendered instead of relying on JavaScript and dynamic content load)

    https://www.engadget.com/2230544/old-reddit-could-be-the-next-casualty-of-reddits-war-on-ai-scraping/

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You seem to have misunderstood, and the article you linked doesn't contradict what I've said.

    Wealthy, sophisticated LLM developers would not have been scraping old reddit. They would pay reddit for API access.

    Shutting down old reddit closes the door on back yard developers, not OpenAI.

    Additionally, when you run a prompt in a chatbot, it doesn't scurry away and scrape old reddit and then formulate an answer. The scraping of content is going on while the model is being developed.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    Wealthy, sophisticated LLM developers would not have been scraping old reddit. They would pay reddit for API access.

    Shutting down old reddit closes the door on back yard developers, not OpenAI.

    And yet it did. And yet reddit mentioned shutting down API too

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    As if wealthy people pay for stuff they could have for free. Literally everybody had their copyright infringed from the training of GenAI. Authors, Journalists, Artists, Musicians, Regisseurs, the list is endless. Unless you sue, you won't see any compensation from them. By now you should know that companies only play fair if they're forced to, otherwise literally anything goes.

    It's quite naive to believe they would pay for API access, tbh.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I used morphe on the reddit app and it is still unusable. You cant get r/all or even easily get to te shitty popular sub. It shows me days and weeks old stuff. Completely different experience to what I want reddit for, new links.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Imagine if the AI companies used their infinite money glitch to just replace Reddit instead. Now that's karma.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Bye reddit, you were ok, 10 years ago.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    Nobody talking about how this article seems very strongly AI-written? Like it offers things it can "do for you" at the end of each section. And the "what this means to you' has nothing about what this means to you......

    Very interesting.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago

    Reddit Almost Disappears

    If only.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Surprised this fucking idiot used a source instead of strategically editing it out.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Since when does ChatGPT provide citations?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    All major LLMs have had citation ability for while now. Any time I ask one a question I can't find the answer to, if it's not providing a source, I automatically assume the output is slop. And even then, you still have to be wary, because it will often make something up then cite a semi-related source that doesn't actually contain its claims.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It's had web search ability for about 2 years now. That makes it a fair bit more reliable than before except for when the source it finds is actually irrelevant. But if you're knowledgeable in the domain you're prompting about, it'll usually be easy to figure out. If you're not... Well, good luck.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    i cant get any LLMs to consult reddit at this point.

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